Amsoil OE 0W-20 vs PP 0W-20.....

[asharris7]

Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: asharris7
I like PP, But there is no way someone can sit anywhere and type "SS and PP/PU are the same base stock."


When comparing spec sheets, PU and Amsoil SS have very similar characteristic. One could assume they use similar basestocks.


We all know what assuming does.......PAO vs Hydro-cracked.... look it up

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: asharris7
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: asharris7
I like PP, But there is no way someone can sit anywhere and type "SS and PP/PU are the same base stock."


When comparing spec sheets, PU and Amsoil SS have very similar characteristic. One could assume they use similar basestocks.


We all know what assuming does.......PAO vs Hydro-cracked.... look it up


The SSO is a pao combination and PU is gas to liquid. Not hydrocracked. So you sir may want to look into that.
And the oe line is also hydrocracked basestocks,just like pp. So untie the knot and breathe.

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: asharris7
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: asharris7
I like PP, But there is no way someone can sit anywhere and type "SS and PP/PU are the same base stock."


When comparing spec sheets, PU and Amsoil SS have very similar characteristic. One could assume they use similar basestocks.


We all know what assuming does.......PAO vs Hydro-cracked.... look it up


PU is neither PAO nor hydro-cracked.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: KHP


No it's not hydro-cracked. It's a completely different process. The basestock is actually synthesized (Fischer–Tropsch process) and is more "synthetic" than regular GPIII oil thus the naming of GPIII+.

Basestock is pretty equivalent to GPIV and GPV basestocks.


Wrong regarding cracking.

F-T makes a very wide distribution of hydrocarbons, and there is a TON of wax that must be hydro cracked to get the hydrocarbon distribution desired to have the fluid properties needed. Hydroceacking/hydrotreating/hydro desulfurization cleaves bonds, saturated double bonds and de-aromitizes. F-T products are a mix of alkanes and some variants with more bonds, straight and branched, with some olefins. Other side products can also be made. It tends to be a very stinky mix, think mixture of crisco and olive oil. How the distribution of product is tweaked is based upon process conditions, with the most important consideration being heat removal.

GTL makes a ton of waxes, it's a group III with a slightly more consistent basestock. Whether its slack wax from a hydro cracker, or waste wax from F-T, the fundamental processing is similar.

 

[KHP]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Wrong regarding cracking.

F-T makes a very wide distribution of hydrocarbons, and there is a TON of wax that must be hydro cracked to get the hydrocarbon distribution desired to have the fluid properties needed. Hydroceacking/hydrotreating/hydro desulfurization cleaves bonds, saturated double bonds and de-aromitizes. F-T products are a mix of alkanes and some variants with more bonds, straight and branched, with some olefins. Other side products can also be made. It tends to be a very stinky mix, think mixture of crisco and olive oil. How the distribution of product is tweaked is based upon process conditions, with the most important consideration being heat removal.

GTL makes a ton of waxes, it's a group III with a slightly more consistent basestock. Whether its slack wax from a hydro cracker, or waste wax from F-T, the fundamental processing is similar.


Thanks for the clarification I guess they still do some cracking as one of the final steps of the process. Though it seems like the final product is vastly superior to other GRPIII basestocks and has great properties of GRPIV and GRPV oils.

 

[badtlc]

The GTL basestock, regardless of process, is better than the PAOs out there. It has a ridiculously low NOACK.

 

[asharris7]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: asharris7
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: asharris7
I like PP, But there is no way someone can sit anywhere and type "SS and PP/PU are the same base stock."


When comparing spec sheets, PU and Amsoil SS have very similar characteristic. One could assume they use similar basestocks.


We all know what assuming does.......PAO vs Hydro-cracked.... look it up


The SSO is a pao combination and PU is gas to liquid. Not hydrocracked. So you sir may want to look into that.
And the oe line is also hydrocracked basestocks,just like pp. So untie the knot and breathe.


Hey look! The knot is untied.....Now where were we?