So the older one had better specs.?quote:
I hate to nitpick, but those are the specs for the older, CH-4 version of Delvac 1. Never the less, it's an excellent product
So the older one had better specs.?quote:
I hate to nitpick, but those are the specs for the older, CH-4 version of Delvac 1. Never the less, it's an excellent product
10w40 isn't wht recommended oil for diesels from Amsoil. Try the 15w40 or the 5w30 series 3000.quote:
Originally posted by FowVay:
I have used Amsoils 10W-40 in my TDI diesel and was not overly impressed. My engine seems to run smoother with Delvac-1. I am going to relegate the Amsoil to my gas powered vehicle and stick with the Delvac-1 for the diesel.
One thing that I do notice exclusively with the Amsoil 10W-40 is that the whistle sound from the turbocharger is much louder. I have no idea whether this is good or bad.
Amsoil certainly seems to think that their 10/40 is a diesel oil. They have in bold letters on the bottle that it exceeds API service CI-4 plus they have printed on the back of their package that it is 'recommended' for the following application:quote:
10w40 isn't wht recommended oil for diesels from Amsoil. Try the 15w40 or the 5w30 series 3000.
Well then somebody needs to update their websites. That info comes straight from Amsoil and Mobil.quote:
Originally posted by TooSlick:
BTW, the info that was posted is somewhat outdated, but that's another story.
TooSlick
Delvac-1 NOACK = 13%quote:
Originally posted by buster:
I got news for you too, NOAK differences of 1-3% don't make all that much of a difference, if at all.
I believe these are the OLD specs, when D1 was only CH-4 rated and before Mobil changed the formula to meet API CI-4 ratings.quote:
Originally posted by buster:
Mobil Delvac 1
Pour Point, °C (°F) -54 (-65)
Flash Point, °C (°F) 230 (446)
http://www.amsoil.com/products/amo.htmlquote:
Originally posted by wulimaster:
10w40 isn't wht recommended oil for diesels from Amsoil. Try the 15w40 or the 5w30 series 3000.
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Originally posted by buster:
So what happend then is when Mobil met the new CI-4 API, they had to lower the specs a bit? If thats the case, it's really not a fair apples to apples comparison unless Amsoil meets it as well.
Amsoil buys their Group 4 basestocks from Exxon-Mobil. The same basestocks that are used in D1. The difference is the additive package. Amsoil uses a custom package manufactured by Lubrizol ( www.lubrizol.com ) the world leader in additive manufacturing for fuels and oils.quote:
Plus, do you really know if they are using as high of quality base stocks as Mobil is?
I think it has some relevance, but I agree, it limits the performance to some degree. The old specs were better, but I don't think the new D1 is any worse off. Those specs are very close and like I said they could be using even higher quality base stocks then before.quote:
API certification means nothing
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Originally posted by TooSlick:
Texas TDI will claim to be an Amsoil "dealer"...
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In fact he is exactly the type of individual that tends to give Amsoil a bad image on forums like this and that reputable dealers work so hard to overcome.
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Oil analysis results with the CI-4 version of Delvac 1 have been excellent, and I recommend it as an alternative to Amsoil all the time on the TDI forums. It's the best competitive product on the market, period.
No, it means he is objective and reasonable about things and is one of the reasons why this site does so well. He has always recommended Mobil 1 for people not interested in the long drain aspect. So he is helping them. Ted knows his stuff and is always fair about things. He has stated before how silly the whole Amsoil/Mobil 1 debate is and how they cater to different markets. I will say from what I've seen, which is only what is on here and a few other sites, that Amsoil S3k is an incredible oil. I might use it down the road at some point when I get a new car. All of Amsoil's oils will be of high quality bc they only use the best components availble. I do get critical of certain aspects of Amsoil, but there is something to be said about all the major oils out there.quote:
Recommending Mobil oil to a potential customer when you're an Amsoil dealer makes about as much sence as a Ford saleman recommending Chevy's to a potential customer.
LMAO ROFL!!quote:
Originally posted by TooSlick:
Buster,
Texas TDI will claim to be an Amsoil "dealer", but quite honestly he hasn't got a clue about any of this stuff, and I'd basically ignore anything he says.
Tooslick