Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
I am unfamiliar with that history. I know VERY little about Amsoil comparatively, because I am a long-time M1 user and have never really had a reason to switch....
I guess there is even earlier bad blood than this....Al really tweaked off GM. Al was presenting a discussion, at an SAE meeting, on extended oil drains at a meeting. Someone from GM Lubricants Division took exception to his comments.
Al asked how many engineers GM had on the payroll. The guy couldn't answer, so Al prodded--3,000? 5,000? 8,000?
Al said something about none of them knew anything about lubricants, and they couldn't design a car on which the spark plugs couldn't be changed without lifting the engine.
About that time, the GM guys get redfaced and stomped out of the meeting.
Shortly thereafter, Al learned about the NOACK test, which was only being done in Europe at the time. He had Lubrizol run some tests in their lab in England. He published the results, which showed that the GM Goodwrench oil had the worst results. The GM guys called Lubrizol, and asked if they had seen what that S*O*B Amatuzio had published. Lubrizol guys said they had seen it, and their own tests confirmed it. Within 2-3 weeks, GM had a new OEM supplier (Mobil)
There was some enmity between some of the participants for a number of years. Since then, I suspect all the GM side have retired and/or died, and Al keeps plugging.
I am unfamiliar with that history. I know VERY little about Amsoil comparatively, because I am a long-time M1 user and have never really had a reason to switch....
I guess there is even earlier bad blood than this....Al really tweaked off GM. Al was presenting a discussion, at an SAE meeting, on extended oil drains at a meeting. Someone from GM Lubricants Division took exception to his comments.
Al asked how many engineers GM had on the payroll. The guy couldn't answer, so Al prodded--3,000? 5,000? 8,000?
Al said something about none of them knew anything about lubricants, and they couldn't design a car on which the spark plugs couldn't be changed without lifting the engine.
About that time, the GM guys get redfaced and stomped out of the meeting.
Shortly thereafter, Al learned about the NOACK test, which was only being done in Europe at the time. He had Lubrizol run some tests in their lab in England. He published the results, which showed that the GM Goodwrench oil had the worst results. The GM guys called Lubrizol, and asked if they had seen what that S*O*B Amatuzio had published. Lubrizol guys said they had seen it, and their own tests confirmed it. Within 2-3 weeks, GM had a new OEM supplier (Mobil)
There was some enmity between some of the participants for a number of years. Since then, I suspect all the GM side have retired and/or died, and Al keeps plugging.
