Can I use Mobil 1 0w30 ESP in a 2024 Toyota Corolla?

I would just run 0W8 and change it a lot more often than required. For the type of service a Corolla sees, I really don't see this engine wearing out before the rest of the car does. It seems like most engine issues in recent years have been oil leaks and valvetrain components wearing out from either poor design or contaminated oil.
 
I am using Mobil1 0w30 AFE in my 2023 Rav4. Here is a clip of a cold start.
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There is a rattling sound that occurs when a D-4S engine is first started. It is normal !

People scramble for thicker oil to try and cushion this sound when it is entirely unnecessary to do that. No alarming wear is happening, folks.

Personally, I do drive with a light foot for the first ten minutes of the day--even in mild Winter NorCal and with 0W8.

The focus should be on adquate protection and cleanliness at operating temperatures, and of course we all have our own ideas about what is comfortably adequate.

I say do your homework and gather broad information, as you know your driving circumstances.

ESP 0W30 is indeed a stellar oil, albeit famous for not having excellent TBN retention.
 
In Australia it would be 0W16 or 0W20 or 5W30 or 10W30, all Toyota approved.

Sure you could find someone running 0W8 (also approved), but it would be easier to find someone running 10W40 or 15W40. The last two aren't approved grades, but it's likely that someone is using it and the car will run just fine.
 
There is a rattling sound that occurs when a D-4S engine is first started. It is normal !

People scramble for thicker oil to try and cushion this sound when it is entirely unnecessary to do that. No alarming wear is happening, folks.

Personally, I do drive with a light foot for the first ten minutes of the day--even in mild Winter NorCal and with 0W8.

The focus should be on adquate protection and cleanliness at operating temperatures, and of course we all have our own ideas about what is comfortably adequate.

I say do your homework and gather broad information, as you know your driving circumstances.

ESP 0W30 is indeed a stellar oil, albeit famous for not having excellent TBN retention.

The rattling sound isn’t the concern I had with the 0w16, though this is a difficult engine to live with and adjust to if you are used to silky smooth quiet engines. There was a hollow knock-clock-tock sound that it made occasionally with the 0w16 that I also heard for the first few seconds during start up after an oil filter change where I didn’t pre-fill the filter....I haven’t heard it since using Xw30.

That being said, I do think that on the colder days of the year, (like the day of that cold start video) the Xw30 is probably much more viscous than it needs to be.
 
That being said, I do think that on the colder days of the year, (like the day of that cold start video) the Xw30 is probably much more viscous than it needs to be.
On the colder days of the year any oil is much more viscous than it needs to be. But this one here has a 0W winter rating. No rating is better for cranking and pumpability.
 
I find it odd that the owners manual offers so many choices. In Lake Havasu City AZ (115-123 degrees all summer) I asked the Dealer's service manager about running 5w30 instead of 0w20 that the book says to run, and he freaked out saying "no, no, never run anything but 0w20 even when towing heavy trailers in the heat" like I occasionally to. He was adamant they don't have issues. I use 0w20, 5w-20, and 5w30, or a mixture of those depending on what I have on hand and my anticipated use for the next 6 months. It seems to me all these valve train issues with roller lifters were not a thing when they were recommending thicker oils in those engines with rollers.
 
Why not use ESP 0/30? Absolutely nothing wrong having that 3.5 HTHS. Better timing chain wear protection, better specs overall. It’s also rated API SL, but exceeds SP specs. The Zn Ph are in the 800 levels

ESP 0w30 is a great oil for sure and it won’t hurt it but my point is that I just don’t think a Corolla needs an oil with a 3.5 HTHS unless it’s the GR Corolla. But for one like this that came with 0w8, it would be just fine with an oil with an HTHS in the 2.6 to 3.0 range. This isn’t a highly stressed engine here. Why take away MPG when it really isn’t going to make the engine last any longer?
 
ESP 0w30 is a great oil for sure and it won’t hurt it but my point is that I just don’t think a Corolla needs an oil with a 3.5 HTHS unless it’s the GR Corolla. But for one like this that came with 0w8, it would be just fine with an oil with an HTHS in the 2.6 to 3.0 range. This isn’t a highly stressed engine here. Why take away MPG when it really isn’t going to make the engine last any longer?
It may change by 1-2 mpg. We would never notice a difference, 500k cars sure, but not you and I
 
Why not use ESP 0/30? Absolutely nothing wrong having that 3.5 HTHS. Better timing chain wear protection, better specs overall. It’s also rated API SL, but exceeds SP specs. The Zn Ph are in the 800 levels
It is fundamentally impossible for an oil rated for SL to perform adequately for all wear protection related categories of SP.
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It may change by 1-2 mpg. We would never notice a difference, 500k cars sure, but not you and I
I think 1-2 MPG is rather significant over the life of the car, especially if it’s going 500,000 miles. That would probably add up to $1000 or more in savings. That’s why I stick with 0w20 in my Civic. The way I drive it I know it doesn’t need a 3.0 HTHS oil let alone a 3.5. So I’ll take every MPG I can get (over 7000 miles last year in the warm months it averaged 49.8)
 
Toyota Corollas are actually designed to be severe/extreme service vehicles. If you go out to any island or a place like Saudi Arabia the Corolla seems to dominate Why? Its the only vehicle which lasts and survives in those places. Toyota knows this so they keep the Corolla simple and durable.

I tend to think the 4 cylinder in the Corolla can tolerate a lot of different oils from thick to thin. The difference with thin is better mpg. The designers of the engine know the islanders going to stick any oil in it or flat out not change it at all or even run the engine low on oil.
 
I maintain several other people's vehicles for them, and I made it clear to all of them, they are going to be getting M1 European spec 0W40 oil, unless they bring me oil to use. The woman who has me doing maintenance on her 2023 Rav mentioned that to someone who is in the service department at the Toyota dealership she bought it from, and then she told me, they said that is a great oil, and they use M1 0W30 in their own wife's Rav.
All this saving 5 cents on gas BS, running oils wildly thin, in my personal opinion is ludicrous.
 
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