A way to reduce homeless drug problem in my area?

[Al]

Drug and alcohol addicted people would do far better with proper rehab and vocational training than putting them in jail. Other countries have great success with preventing repeat offenders by offering people like that and other low-level offenders not only proper rehab and treating them like human beings, but offering great vocational training so when they leave they can actually go enter the workforce.

I have no doubt you are better informed than I. I still believe though that. Even with "proper" rehabilitating....Most won't asvail themselves to it and the majority of those rehabilitated will repeat the process. I doubt that few will ultimately succeed. Cities attract these folks bc they do lots of free handouts. Once they are there, the resources are over run. I see no real solutions that are affordable or effective.

Tell me where I am wrong.

 

[Cujet]

Subjects like this are where I fall utterly short. I can fix just about anything mechanical. I can't fix broken humans.

I'll ask Grok3.

As suspected, providing shelter first, then the various forms of care seem to be most effective.

 

[4strokes]

I live in Washington, right across the border with Portland, Oregon. I work in Portland and we were talking at work about the homeless drug problem. One of my co-workers said Oregon should get rid of the .10 cent can and bottle refund because that is what fuels the homeless drug problem. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Oregon raised the refund years back from .5 to .10 cents. You even have the homeless across the border in Washington bringing bags of cans and bottles over to Portland to cash in. On the 8 lane bridge over the Columbia river every day I see homeless pushing shopping carts with bags, homeless on bikes with bags strapped to them, cars with 20 bags tied down to the roof. I lose count on the day I put out my blue recycling can, how many tweakers show up during the night and go through every can in the neighborhood.

The hunter-gatherers of our time.

 

[ripcord]

The way I see our homeless crowd in Dallas, until you completely remove the drug element, nothing with them will change.

The only solution I can envision is to change some laws around so that people's constitutional rights can be "altered" when they become homeless due to drug use and put them in a rehab facility until they're clean. Naturally, that'll never happen, and even if they did, a lot of drug users leave rehab and go straight to their dealers.

Unfortunately more people are going to have to die from overdoses or from violent crimes perpetrated by drug users before anything's really going to change. Tents, garbage, grocery carts and human feces have become the norm in the city. I live in a far northeast suburb of Dallas and and a few weeks ago we finally got our first street beggar. He's even become violent with a couple of people sitting at a traffic light, so I suppose the police have no idea what to do with him. I've seen them talking to him on the sidewalk, but he remains. Just 12 more years till retirement and I'm out of this cesspit.

One highly effective way to deal with drugged and drunk street people (and crime in general) is to strongly prosecute and punish pretty crimes. Break a window? Drink and disorderly? Do a month in county jail. Break into a car? Commit a minor assault? Six months. Leave a broken window unfixed in your building? Get a fine.

Say what you will about Mayor Giuliani, but he substantially reduced crime of all types in New York City through this policy.

 

[Owen Lucas]

I noticed when we visited PNW most restrooms were locked and staff needed to unlock door.

Probably sketchy people or homeless doing drugs in restroom.

Wait till you learn about the druggie habit of poking needles into rolls of toilet paper for some reason. I've seen photos of bloody streaks on the side of TP rolls in bathrooms. Blood dies in like 8 minutes or something AFAIK but I still don't want some crackheads blood on my TP.

Definitely TMI but just an FYI when you travel to zombie occupied zones.

Any one ever witnessed the homeless near Honolulu? Miles and miles of beach completely ruined for public use. HI shipped them back to the mainland. Some of them had fat bank accounts. Paradise lost

Kauai didn't have this problem. Maybe it's all those chickens and roosters running around constantly asking for food and going COCKADOODLEDOOOOOOO in your face?

Could the solution actually be releasing 1000's of wild chickens into public areas to annoy the homeless?

 

[ripcord]

Wait till you learn about the druggie habit of poking needles into rolls of toilet paper for some reason. I've seen photos of bloody streaks on the side of TP rolls in bathrooms. Blood dies in like 8 minutes or something AFAIK but I still don't want some crackheads blood on my TP.

Definitely TMI but just an FYI when you travel to zombie occupied zones.


Kauai didn't have this problem. Maybe it's all those chickens and roosters running around constantly asking for food and going COCKADOODLEDOOOOOOO in your face?

Could the solution actually be releasing 1000's of wild chickens into public areas to annoy the homeless?

Only until they learn how to catch, clean and BBQ chickens. Then Walmart will have to keep the Baby Ray's behind lock and key, LOL.

 

[Rmay635703]

I have no doubt you are better informed than I. I still believe though that. Even with "proper" rehabilitating....Most won't asvail themselves to it and the majority of those rehabilitated will repeat the process.

Tell me where I am wrong.

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Say what you will about Mayor Giuliani, but he substantially reduced crime of all types in New York City through this policy.

Crime dropped nearly nationwide throughout the 90’s including in areas that almost disbanded their police due to budget constraints.

People don’t like to know the real reasons but reductions in background lead combined with specific abortion trends directly track crime with a 16 year offset, in all circumstances in all cultures every time.

Scientific community accepts the findings as self evident but doesn’t talk about the research. There is one scholarly book about the topic, studies are covering close to 100 years of worldwide data.

Current increases in crime again track failures in lead mitigation (and certain other specific chemical exposure)
and changes in abortion trends starting about 25 years ago.

 

[ripcord]

Crime dropped nearly nationwide throughout the 90’s including in areas that almost disbanded their police due to budget constraints.

People don’t like to know the real reasons but reductions in background lead combined with specific abortion trends directly track crime with a 16 year offset, in all circumstances in all cultures every time.

Scientific community accepts the findings as self evident but doesn’t talk about the research. There is one scholarly book about the topic, studies are covering close to 100 years of worldwide data.

Current increases in crime again track failures in lead mitigation (and certain other specific chemical exposure)
and changes in abortion trends starting about 25 years ago.

Sure. We'll just ignore the 134% increase in incarceration rates during the nineties cause that had nothing to do with it. The fact of the matter is that the majority of the serious crimes being committed at any one time are being done by a tiny fraction of the population.

 

[Dave Hess]

A large amount of the homeless in my area were bused from Los Angeles. That is how los Angeles deals with the problem.

Many of the homeless will tell you the story of being rounded up in Los Angeles and dropped off at the greyhound bus station @2a.

Many cities has $_____ budgeted to buy 1 way bus tickets to another city 200 miles away.

 

[Owen Lucas]

There is one scholarly book about the topic, studies are covering close to 100 years of worldwide data.

What is the name of this book?

 

[Chris142]

Many cities has $_____ budgeted to buy 1 way bus tickets to another city 200 miles away.

Too bad they send them here instead of needles,ca

 

[Pablo]

Not many homeless near the arctic circle

 

[Finklejag]

https://www.kptv.com/2025/05/17/ore...-change-due-concerns-over-drugs-homelessness/

 

[Owen Lucas]

Not many homeless near the arctic circle

Next post from @GON: "These flights to the Arctic Circle are getting pretty bad"

"I was having a layover at Svalbard Airport, Longyearbyen Airport (LYR) and the terminal is filled with homeless sleeping everywhere."

JK!

 

[Pablo]

Next post from @GON: "These flights to the Arctic Circle are getting pretty bad"

"I was having a layover at Svalbard Airport, Longyearbyen Airport (LYR) and the terminal is filled with homeless sleeping everywhere."

JK!

Wife not approved commute to see kids but there are spec houses for $700K