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I feel M1 is the best true synthetic for the money. I mean,$4 and some change a quart,how can you go wrong? :^)
750+HP Corvette Z06 oil question..............
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I didn't mean to imply the list of vehicles that choose Mobil 1 was small if that's how I sounded. I was just saying other expensive vehicles, and even some of the most expensive vehicles come with and recommend Castrol.
And to me, this doesn't mean much. I think Mobil 1 and Castrol make high quality products.
But I also bet that there are many other oils that would take these engines to the same mileage that M1/Castrol does.
As a matter of fact, I bet I could run good old faithful Rotella-T 5W-40 Group III in any of the cars that call for a 40 weight, and raise [censored] in them and have no issues. I do think they want a quality oil for their vehicles, but I also think there is more to it than the oil. Like I said, I think some bidding goes on behind closed doors... big fancy golden closed doors. Exxon/Mobil is the richest or one of the richest companies in the world.
That's all I'm saying, that's all I've been trying to say. Nothing about Mobil 1 being bad, because it isn't.
And to me, this doesn't mean much. I think Mobil 1 and Castrol make high quality products.
But I also bet that there are many other oils that would take these engines to the same mileage that M1/Castrol does.
As a matter of fact, I bet I could run good old faithful Rotella-T 5W-40 Group III in any of the cars that call for a 40 weight, and raise [censored] in them and have no issues. I do think they want a quality oil for their vehicles, but I also think there is more to it than the oil. Like I said, I think some bidding goes on behind closed doors... big fancy golden closed doors. Exxon/Mobil is the richest or one of the richest companies in the world.
That's all I'm saying, that's all I've been trying to say. Nothing about Mobil 1 being bad, because it isn't.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
What % of the max output do/can you use? How long can you hold the pedal to the metal? Long enough to get the oil hot or get thrown in jail? How does the engine make the increased Hp? It would be fun to See how the oil is holding up via used oil analysis.
I appreciate all the suggestions...I have been using Mobil 1 10w30 spring thru fall, then the car is stored for 5 months with a fresh oil change...In 1st or 2nd gear you can only give a moderate shot on the pedal..In 3rd it hooks, sometimes, if the roads are hot and it is sunny and 80 degrees or more....I have detuned it a bit as it was over the 825 range, went up a pully size to get to 750+- area 640+- rear wheels...
I do NOT over rev it shift at 5000 max although it is good to 7000rpms...
Why would anyone build a car like this, good question...Cause i could i guess...Makes NO sense, but is a total blast to drive, and helps me keep in touch with the Lord when i push it.......
What % of the max output do/can you use? How long can you hold the pedal to the metal? Long enough to get the oil hot or get thrown in jail? How does the engine make the increased Hp? It would be fun to See how the oil is holding up via used oil analysis.
I appreciate all the suggestions...I have been using Mobil 1 10w30 spring thru fall, then the car is stored for 5 months with a fresh oil change...In 1st or 2nd gear you can only give a moderate shot on the pedal..In 3rd it hooks, sometimes, if the roads are hot and it is sunny and 80 degrees or more....I have detuned it a bit as it was over the 825 range, went up a pully size to get to 750+- area 640+- rear wheels...
I do NOT over rev it shift at 5000 max although it is good to 7000rpms...
Why would anyone build a car like this, good question...Cause i could i guess...Makes NO sense, but is a total blast to drive, and helps me keep in touch with the Lord when i push it.......
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
It is not a small list of cars that come with M1 in the sump. The list is HUGE.
That still doesn't make it the best choice though, especially in a high horsepower application like this.
It is not a small list of cars that come with M1 in the sump. The list is HUGE.
That still doesn't make it the best choice though, especially in a high horsepower application like this.
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Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
It is not a small list of cars that come with M1 in the sump. The list is HUGE.
That still doesn't make it the best choice though, especially in a high horsepower application like this.
Most of the cars ON the list are high HP applications! LOL!
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
It is not a small list of cars that come with M1 in the sump. The list is HUGE.
That still doesn't make it the best choice though, especially in a high horsepower application like this.
Most of the cars ON the list are high HP applications! LOL!
Most of the cars on the list are nowhere near 650 rwhp from the factory though. I bet a good chunk of them are at least recommending ACEA A3 rated Mobil 1 oils, which would be a better choice in this car than M1's 5w30.
I still say Redline here though.
I still say Redline here though.
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Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Most of the cars on the list are nowhere near 650 rwhp from the factory though. I bet a good chunk of them are at least recommending ACEA A3 rated Mobil 1 oils, which would be a better choice in this car than M1's 5w30.
I still say Redline here though.
911 Turbo is 500HP
911 GT2 is 530HP
Panamera Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo S is 550HP
The Veyron is 987HP
Mercedes S600 is 510HP
Mercedes S63 is 518HP
Mercedes S65 is 604HP
Mercedes CLS63 is 507HP
Mercedes CL600 is 510HP
Mercedes CL63 is 518HP
Mercedes CL65 is 604HP
Mercedes SLR is 617HP
Viper is 600HP
Audi R8 5.2 is 525HP
Corvette ZR1 is 638HP
True, only the Veyron is above the 650RWHP threshold, but these are all cars with a full factory warranty
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Most of the cars on the list are nowhere near 650 rwhp from the factory though. I bet a good chunk of them are at least recommending ACEA A3 rated Mobil 1 oils, which would be a better choice in this car than M1's 5w30.
I still say Redline here though.
911 Turbo is 500HP
911 GT2 is 530HP
Panamera Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo S is 550HP
The Veyron is 987HP
Mercedes S600 is 510HP
Mercedes S63 is 518HP
Mercedes S65 is 604HP
Mercedes CLS63 is 507HP
Mercedes CL600 is 510HP
Mercedes CL63 is 518HP
Mercedes CL65 is 604HP
Mercedes SLR is 617HP
Viper is 600HP
Audi R8 5.2 is 525HP
Corvette ZR1 is 638HP
True, only the Veyron is above the 650RWHP threshold, but these are all cars with a full factory warranty
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Most of the cars on the list are nowhere near 650 rwhp from the factory though. I bet a good chunk of them are at least recommending ACEA A3 rated Mobil 1 oils, which would be a better choice in this car than M1's 5w30.
I still say Redline here though.
911 Turbo is 500HP
911 GT2 is 530HP
Panamera Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo S is 550HP
The Veyron is 987HP
Mercedes S600 is 510HP
Mercedes S63 is 518HP
Mercedes S65 is 604HP
Mercedes CLS63 is 507HP
Mercedes CL600 is 510HP
Mercedes CL63 is 518HP
Mercedes CL65 is 604HP
Mercedes SLR is 617HP
Viper is 600HP
Audi R8 5.2 is 525HP
Corvette ZR1 is 638HP
True, only the Veyron is above the 650RWHP threshold, but these are all cars with a full factory warranty
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Kind of answers my question...If i where driving it to redline all the time, which is impossible, i would go with red line or comperable oil, but, sounds like M1 should work fine.. Thanks all...
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Most of the cars on the list are nowhere near 650 rwhp from the factory though. I bet a good chunk of them are at least recommending ACEA A3 rated Mobil 1 oils, which would be a better choice in this car than M1's 5w30.
I still say Redline here though.
911 Turbo is 500HP
911 GT2 is 530HP
Panamera Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo is 500HP
Cayenne Turbo S is 550HP
The Veyron is 987HP
Mercedes S600 is 510HP
Mercedes S63 is 518HP
Mercedes S65 is 604HP
Mercedes CLS63 is 507HP
Mercedes CL600 is 510HP
Mercedes CL63 is 518HP
Mercedes CL65 is 604HP
Mercedes SLR is 617HP
Viper is 600HP
Audi R8 5.2 is 525HP
Corvette ZR1 is 638HP
True, only the Veyron is above the 650RWHP threshold, but these are all cars with a full factory warranty
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Kind of answers my question...If i where driving it to redline all the time, which is impossible, i would go with red line or comperable oil, but, sounds like M1 should work fine.. Thanks all...
I'd run the same thing I run in my 450whp 3V mustang. 0w30 signature series amsoil w/ amsoil air/oil filter. And would feel very good about it!!
From your remarks it sounds like you have a heavy street machine that probably gets driven weekends very hard on the street for short sprints. Just like mine. You don't need racing oil.
I'd even run the amsoil 0w30 for track days. It's that good.
From your remarks it sounds like you have a heavy street machine that probably gets driven weekends very hard on the street for short sprints. Just like mine. You don't need racing oil.
I'd even run the amsoil 0w30 for track days. It's that good.
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Eggactly.
They are specifying an ACEA A3/B3 rated oil with a 3.7 HTHS, not a GF-4 rated 5w30 (or 10w30) oil that, IMO, has no place in a car making over 750 HP at the crank.
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Eggactly.
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Eggactly.
They are specifying an ACEA A3/B3 rated oil with a 3.7 HTHS, not a GF-4 rated 5w30 (or 10w30) oil that, IMO, has no place in a car making over 750 HP at the crank.
Agreed.
At this level I would be putting utmost importance on HTHS.
To the guys that compared their 300-450hp cars' oil requirements to this 750hp Vette, it's apples to oranges.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Other than the 'vette most of them spec 0w40 though.
Eggactly.
Agreed.
At this level I would be putting utmost importance on HTHS.
To the guys that compared their 300-450hp cars' oil requirements to this 750hp Vette, it's apples to oranges.
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Patman
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Most of the cars ON the list are high HP applications! LOL!
I still stand by my statement though, just because an oil is the factory fill doesn't make it the best choice, even if some of those cars on the list are making a decent amount of horsepower.
Most of the cars ON the list are high HP applications! LOL!
I still stand by my statement though, just because an oil is the factory fill doesn't make it the best choice, even if some of those cars on the list are making a decent amount of horsepower.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
The ZR1 is factory 638HP and comes with Mobil 1 5w30 in the sump.........
GM is wrong. Not about Mobil 1. About the weight. I don't know if they are wrong on purpose or not? That's irrelevant anyway. It's a 0w-40 or 5w-40 application.
If a car like this compels you to rip around in it, how on earth it cannot is beyond me, then it's a 40 weight application.
If you use it just to cruise around in then I doubt it matters much.
I'd bet money that Porsche knows more about engine oil than any manufacturer in the world. If this car was under their ownership it would be running 0w-40 or 5w-40 without question.
The ZR1 is factory 638HP and comes with Mobil 1 5w30 in the sump.........
GM is wrong. Not about Mobil 1. About the weight. I don't know if they are wrong on purpose or not? That's irrelevant anyway. It's a 0w-40 or 5w-40 application.
If a car like this compels you to rip around in it, how on earth it cannot is beyond me, then it's a 40 weight application.
If you use it just to cruise around in then I doubt it matters much.
I'd bet money that Porsche knows more about engine oil than any manufacturer in the world. If this car was under their ownership it would be running 0w-40 or 5w-40 without question.
Just remember that the Mobil 1 in the US is not the same stuff as that found in the UK.
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