99% at 30 microns sounds like a Champ. At 3 bucks, that's less than I paid for M1 filters on Walmart clearance. Wow!
20k Supertech filter now at walmart
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A new K&N priced at $9.97 is getting in on the act too. More stock than ST currently.
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So now I see the 'blue-ish' adbv on the MP10575 spin on. Price "$5.48"? Beyond that see ecore, can't see bypass but 'assume' it's dome poppet. Can't tell much else about it. Will these replace the current ~$3 ST value line? ST cartridge looks like a cartridge.
As for K&N, still looks to be Champ Labs made. SO 1010, ecore likely metal endcaps and silicone adbv. 1002 Champ Labs classic construction.
As for K&N, still looks to be Champ Labs made. SO 1010, ecore likely metal endcaps and silicone adbv. 1002 Champ Labs classic construction.
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I looked at the MP12060 when I was there. It was ecore with the blue adbv and a yellow poppet, similar to the pf64 aside from the adbv. No idea on end caps but I'd bet they are steel.
Those K&N look like the old champ made M1 filters... funny how the suppliers go mary-go-'round with the brands....all about the dollar...
I'm fine with the ST9688 at $2.98.
Those K&N look like the old champ made M1 filters... funny how the suppliers go mary-go-'round with the brands....all about the dollar...
I'm fine with the ST9688 at $2.98.
Wemay--thanks for the C&P. Is that blue o-ring in the first 3 pics, what is blue and just underneath the baseplate in the last pic? It doesn't look as thick as typical ADBVs, which is why I'm asking.
Interesting, so 99% at 30 mics? So that would roughly be 95% at 20 mics?
Looks like we finally hounded K&N enough to get them to put something on their box, good on them.
Definitely taking a spot above Wix XP/Napa Platinums for long OCI's in my book now, but they'll have to do better if they want to overtake Fram Ultra's for 99% at 20 mics for 20,000mi intervals for the exact same price. K&N needs to at least sell a comparison on increased flow to show why it would be better to have marginally less efficiency.
I don't think this new line will move on the K&N brand name alone, when comparing the other sides of the boxes reveals a fuller story.
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That just looks too much like my PF63E filters … I only run them 6k to 7k …
Perhaps the ADBV is better … but mine are holding every time I pull them …
Really. So no bypass in the dome in the pictured MP10575, and as found in ACDelco for GM vehicles and several of the current ST including but not limited to 9688? Even 'if' it's silicone, a step backward 'imo.' Surprised to read the blue seen is a combo valve
As for "....99% at 30 mics? So that would roughly be 95% at 20 mics?..."
Admit I'm not much on filter efficiency extrapolation, but 95% 20 um would seem extremely generous to me. For me, 'if' efficiency was a priority, I go with one that has a corresponding beta @ 20um or ISO 4548-12 @20 or 25um. That said, many/most OEM OF give no efficiency spec at all.
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OK, I didn't realize that there were two different ST filters that you showed. Looking at the pics I see that now.
A blue combo valve. When work quiets down, I have a few adbvs (including one nitrile) that I want to shove in a freezer and then look at the next morning to see how pliable they are. I might just buy a ST with a blue combo to see how it compares to the rest.
Wemay--does the box state the composition of the adbv (nitrile or silicone)? In your pics, the side of the box with a lot of text isn't facing the camera, so I couldn't tell.
A blue combo valve. When work quiets down, I have a few adbvs (including one nitrile) that I want to shove in a freezer and then look at the next morning to see how pliable they are. I might just buy a ST with a blue combo to see how it compares to the rest.
Wemay--does the box state the composition of the adbv (nitrile or silicone)? In your pics, the side of the box with a lot of text isn't facing the camera, so I couldn't tell.
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Unfortunately, it does not.
Well for a filter that is marketed as a 20K mile filter, it would have to be silicone, but I learned a while ago, the world does not operate according to what I think is most reasonable or likely. I think I'll buy one for my adbv freezer test, whenever that's gonna happen.
Makes sense.
There’s an established market for “premium” oil filters. No reason for Walmart not to try and horn in on that with a house brand.
An extra dollar’s worth of content (at most.) allows you to take on the $8-$10 competition.
There’s an established market for “premium” oil filters. No reason for Walmart not to try and horn in on that with a house brand.
An extra dollar’s worth of content (at most.) allows you to take on the $8-$10 competition.
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Back from WM, no joy on any MP prefix Super Tech filters here, just ~$3 ST line. Wanted to check out the MP10575 bypass type, guess it will have to wait till someone posts shot down the outlet/center tube or they start getting stocked locally.
