2025 Toyota Rav4 engine oil update, 5w-30

I bought the non-hybrid with the real automatic transmission. The vehicle was assembled in Canada; the engine was made in Japan. I purchased it new here in Nebraska.
The hybrid transmission is more dependable than the one in your gasser. The hybrid transmission has no clutches, no filter, less moving parts. So what is the real reason you bought the wrong model? Seriously...did you not do research before the purchase?
 
The hybrid transmission is more dependable than the one in your gasser. The hybrid transmission has no clutches, no filter, less moving parts. So what is the real reason you bought the wrong model? Seriously...did you not do research before the purchase?
We went there to buy a new Rav4. It was still on the delivery truck, hadn't been unloaded yet. The hybrid model you love, which they had no stock at the time, was more expensive to buy. I didn't buy the wrong model, it obviously was the wrong model for you, however. I bought what we wanted, they had it in stock, and we picked it up the next day after dealer prep was done. We love it so far. Hopefully the transmission doesn't fall out! Wish me luck lovcom. LOL!
 
We went there to buy a new Rav4. It was still on the delivery truck, hadn't been unloaded yet. The hybrid model you love, which they had no stock at the time, was more expensive to buy. I didn't buy the wrong model, it obviously was the wrong model for you, however. I bought what we wanted, they had it in stock, and we picked it up the next day after dealer prep was done. We love it so far. Hopefully the transmission doesn't fall out! Wish me luck lovcom. LOL!
Not worth owning unless its a Hybrid according to @lovcom
 
The numbers don't sound right. The Hybrid would get at least as good highway MPG compared to the gasser. Something is wrong here...both ladies should've gotten the hybrid. I've had both, so I know.
Sorry you don't like the numbers but they're accurate and not made up. Neither of my SIL's have a lead foot so they get realistic fuel efficiency. It's pretty common knowledge that hybrids often do not achieve their federal highway ratings. Many major automotive periodicals have revealed this in real world testing. I'm venturing to guess that most people buy hybrids for their urban efficiency. As I said my one SIL's RAV4 has proven very efficient around town and she loves it for that. The hyundai accent she traded in on it got a solid 40 to 42 mpg on the highway so that was a little letdown for her. As for CVT's, it's a love or hate relationship. I choose to hate them for many reasons..... they are soulless and not any fun to drive. Spirited driving with them is virtually non-existent. In the mountains they lose any momentum they can build up and it can take forever to get it back. The droning becomes obnoxious. The simple fact is that they are cheaper to produce and have their own maintenance issues. I know, I had one.
 
The numbers don't sound right. The Hybrid would get at least as good highway MPG compared to the gasser. Something is wrong here...both ladies should've gotten the hybrid. I've had both, so I know.

The hybrid transmission is more dependable than the one in your gasser. The hybrid transmission has no clutches, no filter, less moving parts. So what is the real reason you bought the wrong model? Seriously...did you not do research before the purchase?
People just don't want to believe how good the Toyota hybrid drivetrain is. 🤷‍♂️
 
I rented a RAV4 hybrid this week. Dropped it off yesterday. It was really nice and great gas mileage. My only concern would be how long do the batteries last and what does it cost to replace them?

My sister in law had a 2016 Ford Escape hybrid and batteries went at like 80k. Too expensive to replace ($8K I think she said is what they wanted.). She drives a Toyota Camry now.
 
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I rented a RAV4 hybrid this week. Dropped it off yesterday. It was really nice and great gas mileage. My only concern would be how long do the batteries last and what does it cost to replace them?

My sister in law had a 2016 Ford Escape hybrid and batteries went at like 80k. Too expensive to replace ($8K I think she said is what they wanted.). She drives a Toyota Camry now.
On 2020 and up the hybrid batteries have a 150,000 mile/10 year warranty. I’m on my third hybrid now and hybrid batteries to me are not much different than a transmission going out. It’ll typically go out at higher mileage and it’s up to the owner to decide whether they want to do the work or not. In both cases it’ll be more work than the vehicles is worth.
 
The hybrid transmission is more dependable than the one in your gasser. The hybrid transmission has no clutches, no filter, less moving parts. So what is the real reason you bought the wrong model? Seriously...did you not do research before the purchase?
He bought the exact vehicle he wanted in the exact configuration he wanted. End of story, it doesn’t matter why or what research he did.
 
I just bought a 2025 gasoline only Rav4 that I'm very happy with. Fifteen years ago I bought a new Silverado pickup, which I still have, and some friends asked me "why get the 4.8 engine as opposed to the 5.3?". That 4.8 doesn't burn a drop of oil and has never had a lifter failure. There are some "improvements" I refuse to pay for because of the legacies they sometimes create. I'm not here to save the planet, I'm here to save me aggravation and money.

 
On 2020 and up the hybrid batteries have a 150,000 mile/10 year warranty. I’m on my third hybrid now and hybrid batteries to me are not much different than a transmission going out. It’ll typically go out at higher mileage and it’s up to the owner to decide whether they want to do the work or not. In both cases it’ll be more work than the vehicles is worth.
The thing I worry about is capacity. The battery degrades over time. That is NOT covered under warranty. My sister in law ran into that on her Ford Escape hybrid. If the warranty covered that, different story.
 
The thing I worry about is capacity. The battery degrades over time. That is NOT covered under warranty. My sister in law ran into that on her Ford Escape hybrid. If the warranty covered that, different story.
I don’t know if that would be an issue with Toyota or not. Their warranty only state abuse, neglect, weather damage, or extreme use as reasons to deny coverage.

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The thing I worry about is capacity. The battery degrades over time. That is NOT covered under warranty. My sister in law ran into that on her Ford Escape hybrid. If the warranty covered that, different story.
I think the issue is with getting a Ford. Toyota has a good hybrid drivetrain warranty.
 
I think the issue is with getting a Ford. Toyota has a good hybrid drivetrain warranty.
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The Toyota and Ford hybrids are nearly identical. Ford cross licensed with Toyota many years ago to develop theirs. Same eCVT planetary gear type of transmission instead of the boomerang boingo boingo belt/pulley design of other manufacturers CVT. Ford and Toyota build excellent hybrids.
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I rented a RAV4 hybrid this week. Dropped it off yesterday. It was really nice and great gas mileage. My only concern would be how long do the batteries last and what does it cost to replace them?

My sister in law had a 2016 Ford Escape hybrid and batteries went at like 80k. Too expensive to replace ($8K I think she said is what they wanted.). She drives a Toyota Camry now.
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8k? No way. More like 2K and she must’ve had a bad one because they typically go 200,000 miles before crappin’ the bed.
 
As for CVT's, it's a love or hate relationship. I choose to hate them for many reasons..... they are soulless and not any fun to drive. Spirited driving with them is virtually non-existent. In the mountains they lose any momentum they can build up and it can take forever to get it back. The droning becomes obnoxious. The simple fact is that they are cheaper to produce and have their own maintenance issues. I know, I had one.
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What car brand did you have that had a CVT? I ask because the eCVT in Toyota and Ford hybrids is all planetary gears. Not the soulless belt/pulley type of CVT found in other brands. The eCVT in a Ford or Toyota can feel soulless depending on which mode you choose, but the CVT in my Maverick is the best transmission I’ve ever had. I’ve had just about all of them. Manual, traditional torque convertor automatic, and dual clutch. If I choose sport mode it’s, dare I say, a beast. It’s way more fun than I would have ever thought.
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8k? No way. More like 2K and she must’ve had a bad one because they typically go 200,000 miles before crappin’ the bed.
Nope, $8K. Maybe she did just get a dud, but the issue was the warranty, she should have been covered in my opinion. $2K wouldn't be the end of the world, $8K is crazy.
 
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