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2025 Honda civic type R - first oil change
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I have to wonder how often they pull one off the line, and run a test on it, in the assumed QC lab.
I have often wondered that myself. @Alien recently got the Boss efficiency claim updated on Purolators website by contacting the president of the company. The old efficiency had been posted for years with no obvious plans to update it to 99%@46 microns.
Sorry everyone I don’t want to hijack this thread. All this info is in the oil filter sub forum. I recommend checking in once a week to keep tabs on your favorite filters.
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Unfortunately we live in a culture where bean counters, and (short term) stock prices have more influence on QC, than they should.
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Yes, when you make millions of a product, a batch is going to slip through from time to time. Not saying its acceptable -- part of the manufacturing process with consumables in life. Not an isolated situation from only Fram for sure over the years.
Agree. We’re also finding a disturbing pattern with M+H and First Brands that goes beyond a bad batch. Simply just horrible QC all around their filter line ups.
Folks expecting NASA-level QA/QC on something that is a few bucks. The better question is - while the home-brew QA here shows some issues, nobody can point to any of these making any difference in their vehicles "health" and I'm sure these companies have QA/QC metrics but they just may not match with what the average BITOGer wants to see. Glad I have cartridges in my vehicles haha.
Your lucky to have a cartridge filter to inspect! Others have found filter glue in their oil pan and oil passages/vvt causing various problems. Closed louvers would cause bypass events so it’s hard to say what the long term affects may be. GM has a TSB about constant bypass events causing engine damage.
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Would be an issue running it next change ?
No - of course not. Here on this forum, everyone thinks you have to run a grade or two higher or the world will end. If I had a Type R and was tracking it, yes, I would run a 30 or 40 garde but for normal use? The 20 is fine.
Or perhaps some of us run it because we wish to do so so. There are advantages to doing that, and the only real disadvantage is a somewhat higher fuel consumption.
For sure - but "wish to do so" is often portrayed here on the 'tog as "must do so or else XYZ". Big difference and I wish more folks here prefeaced their recommendations with "I do this b/c I like it/feel better/etc." vs. making it sound like it's based on some undeniable facts tied to vehicle/engine longevity etc.
If you don't run a HT HS of atleast 3.5 you're going to damage your engine. This is especially true for daily driven grocey getters.
Congrats on your new ride! PUP 0w20 is good for it
We all know them fellas to write the book on whats good.The type r page on Facebook, junk oil ( not amsoil or motul) and a crap filter .
99% of users on this forum are just randoms that are google certified oil experts.
Exhibit A, on this thread we got a guy shining a flashing on the exterior of 2 oil filters trying to argue they are the same? By pass spring rate and filter medium can’t be deduced by a flashlight..
Another guy talking about HT HS having to be 3.5 or else engine damage.. Just because two oils have the same HT HS doesn’t mean they are cut from the same cloth and offer the same level quality of anything.
Ah, times have not changed here.
To the op, if your all about coupon cutting and saving penny’s on the dollar great your are on the right track. If you are wanting to adhere to OEM maintenance (which I’m guessing your not since your on this forum) your kinda failing by not getting at least the OEM oil filter which is cheap from the dealer.
If your on a mission of finding God’s milk to put into your new car, well your kind of failing.
Exhibit A, on this thread we got a guy shining a flashing on the exterior of 2 oil filters trying to argue they are the same? By pass spring rate and filter medium can’t be deduced by a flashlight..
Another guy talking about HT HS having to be 3.5 or else engine damage.. Just because two oils have the same HT HS doesn’t mean they are cut from the same cloth and offer the same level quality of anything.
Ah, times have not changed here.
To the op, if your all about coupon cutting and saving penny’s on the dollar great your are on the right track. If you are wanting to adhere to OEM maintenance (which I’m guessing your not since your on this forum) your kinda failing by not getting at least the OEM oil filter which is cheap from the dealer.
If your on a mission of finding God’s milk to put into your new car, well your kind of failing.
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I run M1 EP 0w20 with an OEM Honda oil filter. Change the oil every 10,000km ish, as it aligns with when I swap winter/summer tires.
I hope that's true. I ran mostly PP in my van for years and it's pretty badly varnished. The VRP is slowly cleaning it out, but I wasn't impressed with the cleanliness of the PP oil. Is PUP much better in that regard? I hope so.
Not sure about varnish but PUP claims above standards piston cleanliness. It’ll be interesting to see if VRP can clean up the mess!
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