2024 Mazda CX-90

[The Critic]

So expensive battery pack replacement is in the future for both plug-in and regular hybrids...that's part of the reason I would rather a regular hybrid because at least 're-charging' every night isn't necessary.

It isn’t necessary to recharge at all. But if you don’t utilize the battery there is no point of having the plug in version.

The non plug in versions tend to have lower battery replacement costs since the packs are smaller. If you keep either one longer than 15 years (or 10 in some climates), high likelihood that you’ll need to replace.

 

[arkainzeye]

I saw a video that mentioned that the 3.3l inline 6, if you ever have a timing chain seal leak or need the timing chain replaced ..the entire motor has to come out . As the timing chain faces the rear of the engine bay . . Just saying.

 

[PimTac]

I saw a video that mentioned that the 3.3l inline 6, if you ever have a timing chain seal leak or need the timing chain replaced ..the entire motor has to come out . As the timing chain faces the rear of the engine bay . . Just saying.

That’s pretty common now.

 

[dkryan]

I saw a video that mentioned that the 3.3l inline 6, if you ever have a timing chain seal leak or need the timing chain replaced ..the entire motor has to come out . As the timing chain faces the rear of the engine bay . . Just saying.

Apparently that is the least of their problems.

I know someone who owns the CX-90 with the 3.3L turbo.

With less than 3k miles on it, the transfer case seal began to leak. The dealership had to drop the tranny to replace the seal. Here’s hoping the tech got the tranny re-install correct.

While he was at the dealership, he saw three other CX-90s on lifts for seal related leaks. Two for rear seal (diff?) leak issues and another transfer seal leak.

An obvious poor start out of the gate for the CX-90.

 

[E150GT]

What skyactive head issues ? I have a 2016 2.5 with 115k so far no issues. Hope any aren't waiting to pop up on me. My car is paid for and I like that

 

[t1snwrbrdr12]

What skyactive head issues ? I have a 2016 2.5 with 115k so far no issues. Hope any aren't waiting to pop up on me. My car is paid for and I like that

I think the newer ones with cylinder deactivation have cylinder head issues. I feel like I read on here that a Mazda parts guy says these are actually kept in stock as they so commonly need cylinder heads, but maybe I read that elsewhere.

I think they used the cylinder deactivation earlier in cx5’s. Does yours have it? I know is 6’s it was 2018 and up.

 

[E150GT]

I think the newer ones with cylinder deactivation have cylinder head issues. I feel like I read on here that a Mazda parts guy says these are actually kept in stock as they so commonly need cylinder heads, but maybe I read that elsewhere.

I think they used the cylinder deactivation earlier in cx5’s. Does yours have it? I know is 6’s it was 2018 and up.

Thankfully mine does not. It's a 6 though. My 2015 cx5 did not have it either. It uses more oil than I'd like but it's not out of the norm for modern cars. 1 qt per 3000 miles. That could just be my style of driving though. Manual transmission and lots of engine braking.

 

[UG_Passat]

It was the turbo 4 2.0 DI, but I don't know the model or even if it was in the US. I ran across the info while researching that engine.

Lexus never used a turbo 4 2.0L DI gas engine. Toyota has used modified BMW N47 diesels, with a 2.0 version.

 

[The Critic]

Lexus never used a turbo 4 2.0L DI gas engine. Toyota has used modified BMW N47 diesels, with a 2.0 version.

They did--2016 NX200t.

https://pressroom.lexus.com/2016-lexus-nx-200t-luxury-utility-turbocharged/

 

[UG_Passat]

I would probably be more interested in the PHEV version but know very little about plug-in hybrids. I am familiar with and like regular hybrids like Camry, Accord, Fusion etc. What are the advantages/disadvantages of plug-in
hybrids compared to regular hybrids?

Plug-in tends to have beefier electric motors and batteries and allows for full EV mode at realistic speeds. Perfect for local errands and if your commute is within the EV-only range for that vehicle. After the 26 miles in EV-only mode, then in hybrid mode, it gets 25 mpg

Compared to the Lexus TX 550h+, which is a 3.5L V6 with the PHEV and AWD, it gets 33 miles in EV-only mode and 30 mpg in hybrid mode (but gets a CVT)
And Plug-in and full EV's get the HOV sticker so you can solo drive in the HOV lane.

 

[UG_Passat]

They did--2016 NX200t.

https://pressroom.lexus.com/2016-lexus-nx-200t-luxury-utility-turbocharged/

The 8AR isn't a mercedes design though

and the 1st gen NX in Europe wasn't available with a gas-only engine, it was hybrid only, along with most of the Lexus offerings in Europe.

 

[Ws6]

Nope. This is a Mazda engine along with their new transmission.

The engine seems okay, not very sporting, but okay. The transmission is an absolute dog though. Skewed very heartily toward mpg>performance.

 

[PimTac]

The engine seems okay, not very sporting, but okay. The transmission is an absolute dog though. Skewed very heartily toward mpg>performance.

Who buys a CX-90 for performance?

 

[UG_Passat]

Who buys a CX-90 for performance?

What's the point of mazda dedicating resources to build a 340 hp turbo inline-6 when they could have made the CX-90 a FWD platform with a V6?

Because Mazda thinks people should be buying a 3-row SUV for performance, so they targeting BMW, instead of Toyota and Hyundai/Kia

 

[Ws6]

Who buys a CX-90 for performance?

I mean, it leads right off with it...so I presume that "Performance from the ground up" seems to indicate something?

https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/c...GUDdkYf1yrfnS94994hoCyowQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Brons2]

I would like to see some real-world mileage on the PHEV version. We are considering going down to 1 car, as I've been riding the train to work when I go to the office once a week and it's not so bad. I'm not willing to have my wife's Outlander be our only car because it's a little tight for this 6'7" guy, and my '10 Navigator is not reliable enough to be that vehicle. There are 5 of these CX-90 PHEV version on the lot at the local Mazda dealer at pretty much the lowest spec/price you can build one on the Mazda website, around $48K. I'm impressed they ordered so many low-spec ones. Still $48K is a lot of money, but that said, now that we're pretty far out from town, we are spending a LOT of money on gas.

I see the I-6 versions are cheaper by about $4K but not willing to consider one. We would definitely use the "plug" of the PHEV version to maximize our EV only range. I would like a little more EV only range ideally but 26 miles is enough to get us to restuarants or shopping and back. 26 miles would be 2 gallons of gas in my Navigator.

We want something with 3 rows. We rented and liked a Siena hybrid out in CA in March, but they are unobtainium new at the local Toyota dealers. You can get used hybrid Siennas at Avis car sales but not sure if my wife would be open to that.

We would be open to an EV but there really aren't any 3 row anything that's affordable. $48K is only marginally affordable if we can cut our gas bills significantly. 75-80K for a Rivian, we're not open to that.

 

[drtyler]

The engine seems okay, not very sporting, but okay. The transmission is an absolute dog though. Skewed very heartily toward mpg>performance.

Is there a sport or non-eco mode for the transmission?

 

[Pew]

I mean, it leads right off with it...so I presume that "Performance from the ground up" seems to indicate something?

https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/c...GUDdkYf1yrfnS94994hoCyowQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Do you believe that the Mitsubishi Mirage Ralliart can bring out the road warrior in you too . Mazdas were never fast, sans the Miata which is only "quick" via it's lack of weight.

 

[Ws6]

Do you believe that the Mitsubishi Mirage Ralliart can bring out the road warrior in you too . Mazdas were never fast, sans the Miata which is only "quick" via it's lack of weight.

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Mitsubishi doesnt make a performance car. The 3000gt vr4 is very much a bygone thing.

 

[Pew]

Mitsubishi doesnt make a performance car. The 3000gt vr4 is very much a bygone thing.

Right, but on a per-model basis the Miata is the only thing Mazda makes that is quick. Anybody who believes "performance from the ground up" for the CX90 or "zoom-zoom" for their other models is falling for the marketing.