2023 Jetta?

Still wonder if stick is better long term transmission. Seems less work on service—but the driver has to not fry the clutch, no small issue in traffic.
 
Still wonder if stick is better long term transmission. Seems less work on service—but the driver has to not fry the clutch, no small issue in traffic.
I’d bet since your commute is mostly highway, either transmission spending so much time in top gear you couldn’t go wrong with either.

I couldn’t find the posts about the bad transmissions bearings clunking and clacking with your old Jetta. I feel like there was a YouTube video too or something. I did find this one though

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...ng-a-manual-trans.220124/page-12#post-3516596
 
I’d bet since your commute is mostly highway, either transmission spending so much time in top gear you couldn’t go wrong with either.

I couldn’t find the posts about the bad transmissions bearings clunking and clacking with your old Jetta. I feel like there was a YouTube video too or something. I did find this one though

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...ng-a-manual-trans.220124/page-12#post-3516596
I know what you are talking about, and I was never able to nail down the noise. Maybe it was failing, or just at the limit, no idea. Maybe it was just regular noise? Figure, an I4 is not smooth on its power pulses, so the gears are going to "rock" and any play is going to "ring" in response to being sped up/down, and the teeth hitting both sides of the tooth.

With wheels attached:


With axles out (I remember, I split a boot and rebooted them, don't ask me why all the interior trim pieces are off though, no idea!)
 
I’d bet since your commute is mostly highway, either transmission spending so much time in top gear you couldn’t go wrong with either.
Very true, although after dealing with the "sealed" trans on my Tundra, and now looking at how to do coolant and ATF on the wife's Camry... neither is all that bad, but I kinda miss the stupid easy care that my current Camry is (hey, what a novel concept--a dipstick!).

I'm not sure if I'm going to be 15k/yr going forward, or 25k/yr, or worst case, back to 30+. Actually, worst worst case is me taking a new job and doubling my commute--economy goes south enough I could wind up working in MA (that's were the semiconductor businesses are, although who knows where I could go).
 
Not finding threads about the clutch issues. Have not dug deep enough about the 8 speed automatic either. Was looking at used cars, then their known problems, then looping back to here…
Plenty of references to it on the MK7 forum on VW Vortex. 😟. Clutches are not normally a problem for VW but on this model they have been, some at crazy low miles.
 
Aisin 8 speed had rocky history across the manufacturers that are using it.
I think right now is well sorted, as I would say average transmission. VW owners got settlement, Toyota owners got nothing.
The Atlas's trans has a few quirks most noteably a "shhhhhhhh" noise when you come to a near-stop then accelerate, it will hang in third vs. a downshift to second, this causes some noise from the torque converter that many find annoying and have tried to get VW to replace...nothing at all wrong, just a noise and the eco-focused trans map. See my video here...based on >10K views...I'd say this bothers people....description of my video has more info/links. Some of this may be at play with the Jetta and I recall being involved in some threads over on vwvortex about this with the Jetta folks.

 
The Atlas's trans has a few quirks most noteably a "shhhhhhhh" noise when you come to a near-stop then accelerate, it will hang in third vs. a downshift to second, this causes some noise from the torque converter that many find annoying and have tried to get VW to replace...nothing at all wrong, just a noise and the eco-focused trans map. See my video here...based on >10K views...I'd say this bothers people....description of my video has more info/links. Some of this may be at play with the Jetta and I recall being involved in some threads over on vwvortex about this with the Jetta folks.


I don’t have that. Maybe it is prior to 2021.5 model year?
Aisin is ok, far cry from ZF.
 
Mitsubishi resale is great.
Only those that never owned them claim that. I got far better resale on mine than most other brands.
Agreed.
My wife had an Eclipse, she loved it.
That car was completely problem free, and had great resale value.
I used to take it regularly myself, that was a fun car to drive.
 
Still wonder if stick is better long term transmission. Seems less work on service—but the driver has to not fry the clutch, no small issue in traffic.
The engine management on this magical. You just let up the clutch and idle around at 3 mph NO need to clutch and de clutch. NO need to touch the accelerator. Just leave room. Easy.

My commute had twelve lights(!) in 22 miles down RT-111 West, I know. I just leave a few carlengths and I am driving 1/8 mile+ ahead with my eyes,
The car would be an absolute bore with a slush box - as are most all cars - other than Big Block C-Body GM or land yacht Fords with the big 385 Lime.
 
The engine management on this magical. You just let up the clutch and idle around at 3 mph NO need to clutch and de clutch. NO need to touch the accelerator. Just leave room. Easy.
Nice! my TDI would idle at 5mph and that at times was way too fast.

I have two lights close to home, then it's it's about 50 miles highway, then about 6 lights in a mile at the other end. But it's the highway where I have the most problems, get stuck in northbound traffic, everyone going up to their summer home on the lake, on Friday afternoons (or leaf peepers in the fall). Loads of fun crawling in traffic.

Heh, for a while I was trying to not shift on that 50 mile drive. Change highways thrice and one toll (I89S to I93S, Hooksett toll, I293N). That TDI did not like to pull away from the tollbooth at 35mph in top gear, but I had to toss the coins at it... EZPass is worth its weight, and gotta love the full speed ones. Did that for a bit but it got old, real fast. More fun to race off from the booth.
 
Most of my driving is in top gear, but even where shifting is frequently required, I'll take a manual transmission any day over an automatic.
There is a reason that honda and vw have long wait lists for the type R and Golf R, because they're manuals.
 
Bugs me, my Toyota's have been quick to unlock the TC. Sometimes I mash down and force a downshift, other times I try to droop my speed and leave it locked. I'm guessing it's not wearing as much as I fear, but having driven those roads for years, I know gutless econoboxes can crest the hill without a downshift, so why shouldn't this automatic with that much more power on tap?
 
Most of my driving is in top gear, but even where shifting is frequently required, I'll take a manual transmission any day over an automatic.
There is a reason that honda and vw have long wait lists for the type R and Golf R, because they're manuals.
Golf R comes either with a stick or DSG auto so not stick-only like the Type R.
 
Out of morbid curiosity, I looked to see what was available new. Did not realize one could get a Jetta for around $23k new. That’s almost affordable! And tempting since $10k on the used marked gets something with 200k on the clock and who knows what for gremlins. 6 speed manual and supposedly limited rev hang?

The pics and videos I’ve seen of it make it look like it’s a nice ride. But low profile rubber and a “not recommended for towing” helps brings things to a stop (along with the fact that I really wanted a wagon). Funky seat texture too. Oh well, it was fun looking…

Side question: Has VW has figured out timing chains? Pre 2.5’s it seemed like they were a gamble, prone to failure. Not sure how the 1.4’s worked out, but was watching a vid last night on replacing a cam due to VVT phaser failure, not sure if that was just single model failure or what (think it was a 2.0). Are they past all that now? and have their DI sorted out, or are they one of the ones that need walnut blasting every 100k?

Back to look at used (oh joy).
Did you say you wanted a wagon?

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