2009 Nissan Rogue Oil filter recommendation

[factorytuned2012]

That splash shield is the worst. I can change oil on my 18 in as long as it takes to drain. When I do our 21 and 24, I set and drink 2 beers staring at it , trying to motivate myself to tackle that shield. At least the 2.5 doesn’t have to deal with the plastic oil pan that has a 60% chance of stripping everytime.

I got two clips and the control arm holds the plastic inner fender skirting aside. The wife’s new rouge is a different story I’m pushing the vehicle to 7500 mile oil changes.

 

[ZeeOSix]

A cold start is a very low-flow condition. Because the oil is thick, it very slowly flows through clearances. This causes the positive displacement oil pump to slam open the regulator almost instantly when oil pressure is achieved. The majority of the pump’s flow ends up recirculating inside the pump.

The filter briefly sees the pressure spike that opens the regulator. Then it just sees regulated pressure and very low flow. The media of course is only seeing the delta P if cold oil, which due to the extremely low flow, is at a minimum.

There's still the factor of the very thick oil on the filter dP seen - even if the oil pump pressure regulator is working properly. The dP may be high enough to open the filter's bypass valve. Jim Allen on-vehicle filter dP testing showed that can happen pretty easily with very cold thick oil.

 

[Hohn]

There's still the factor of the very thick oil on the filter dP seen - even if the oil pump pressure regulator is working properly. The dP may be high enough to open the filter's bypass valve. Jim Allen on-vehicle filter dP testing showed that can happen pretty easily with very cold thick oil.

Certainly the thick oil will drastically increase delta p for a given flow rate. But flow rate itself also falls off drastically with cold oil, generally enough to offset this.

Can you point me towards a link for the testing to which you refer?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Certainly the thick oil will drastically increase delta p for a given flow rate. But flow rate itself also falls off drastically with cold oil, generally enough to offset this.

Can you point me towards a link for the testing to which you refer?

Lots of threads in this board on how filters can go into bypass with cold thick oil. And it's been pointed out in many of those threads that an old fashioned spring loaded pressure relief valve on a PD oil pump will still allow increasing pump outlet pressure and flow volume to occur after it's already started into pressure relief. Here's some Jim Allen threads. Figures are missing because of the board migration to a new software platform, but you can get the gist from the discussions.

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Gauge Installed'

Mar 10, 2013

Well, I got my differential pressure gauges installed. Works fine. Instead of buying a single gauge, I just hooked up two Isspro stepper type pressure gauges with senders on either side of the filter using a Pareto base. As you can see by the pics, I am using all the ports on the base now. The picture shows the side of the base that faces the block and,yes, the hold-down bolt is in the wrong place in this photo. Here's a breakdown of where the ports go.

1) Filter Out: This is the only port on the base that reads the pressure on the clean side of the filter.
2) Sample port for oil samples...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 49
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Testing Update'

Apr 17, 2013

Nothing much to report on currently. Thus far, I have data for the setup I am running now ( P1 w/10W30 MC Super Duty CJ-4/SM) at 12K miles but I am still collecting filters for new-state testing, which won't start until I have finished the 15K interval on the MC oil I am currently running.

I will be using 5W20 Castrol GTX for the test (I have almost two cases of SM laying around). Thus far, I have a MC FL820S, Bosch D3410 (both courtesy 2010FX4), Fram XG2 Ultra and Royal Purple to test DP. I don't intend to go out a buy every filter on the planet to test. I may get a couple of others on...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 27
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Data, Pure 1 & Motorcraft'

Nov 24, 2013

Hopefully nobody got too blue in the face waiting for this. A lot of data to go through, a busy schedule and other priorities... what can I say?

Background:

I installed a differential pressure test setup on my F150HD (5.4L 3V Modular V8). Mine is a two gauge setup with senders on either side of the filter. The gauges are Isspro stepper motor types... very accurate... and mounted in a one-wire-daisy-chain using Isspro's Performax system. The heart of the system is a CU which Isspro calls the ESP (Electronic Signal Processor). You can install up to 17 gauges on one wire with this system...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 83
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

 

[Hohn]

Lots of threads in this board on how filters can go into bypass with cold thick oil. And it's been pointed out in many of those threads that an old fashioned spring loaded pressure relief valve on a PD oil pump will still allow increasing pump outlet pressure and flow volume to occur after it's already started into pressure relief. Here's some Jim Allen threads. Figures are missing because of the board migration to a new software platform, but you can get the gist from the discussions.

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Gauge Installed'

Mar 10, 2013

Well, I got my differential pressure gauges installed. Works fine. Instead of buying a single gauge, I just hooked up two Isspro stepper type pressure gauges with senders on either side of the filter using a Pareto base. As you can see by the pics, I am using all the ports on the base now. The picture shows the side of the base that faces the block and,yes, the hold-down bolt is in the wrong place in this photo. Here's a breakdown of where the ports go.

1) Filter Out: This is the only port on the base that reads the pressure on the clean side of the filter.
2) Sample port for oil samples...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 49
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Testing Update'

Apr 17, 2013

Nothing much to report on currently. Thus far, I have data for the setup I am running now ( P1 w/10W30 MC Super Duty CJ-4/SM) at 12K miles but I am still collecting filters for new-state testing, which won't start until I have finished the 15K interval on the MC oil I am currently running.

I will be using 5W20 Castrol GTX for the test (I have almost two cases of SM laying around). Thus far, I have a MC FL820S, Bosch D3410 (both courtesy 2010FX4), Fram XG2 Ultra and Royal Purple to test DP. I don't intend to go out a buy every filter on the planet to test. I may get a couple of others on...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 27
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

J

Thread 'Differential Pressure Data, Pure 1 & Motorcraft'

Nov 24, 2013

Hopefully nobody got too blue in the face waiting for this. A lot of data to go through, a busy schedule and other priorities... what can I say?

Background:

I installed a differential pressure test setup on my F150HD (5.4L 3V Modular V8). Mine is a two gauge setup with senders on either side of the filter. The gauges are Isspro stepper motor types... very accurate... and mounted in a one-wire-daisy-chain using Isspro's Performax system. The heart of the system is a CU which Isspro calls the ESP (Electronic Signal Processor). You can install up to 17 gauges on one wire with this system...

• Jim Allen
• Replies: 83
• Forum: Engine Oil Filters

Thank you so much, I’ll drive into those link as I can.