2000 5.4L Oil

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Brent_G
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: Jameson
I too have a 2v 5.4l (2002 F350) and I have heard horror stories about the tunes cooking transmissions.





Unfortunately, Ford trucks of that era had very weak automatic transmissions.


Huh? The 4R75W and the 4R100 weren't weak transmissions. However the 4R100 behind the PSD had converter failure issues (dual clutch converter). But was fine behind the gas engines.


We have 4 in service, 3 of which have never seen a fluid change at close to 200k miles in a tow trucks that also plow snow. My truck was not changed until 130k. No failures so far.


That's been our experience too (similar). We've had 3x 4R100's behind 5.4L 2V's in Expeditions and they've been bomb-proof.

 

[solorexpy]

Anybody know if inline tranny filters to the cooler was factory? I thought I read that inline filters were only installed after a rebuild. My 4R100 has the filter, so it'd be interesting to know whether or not mine's been rebuilt.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: solorexpy
Anybody know if inline tranny filters to the cooler was factory? I thought I read that inline filters were only installed after a rebuild. My 4R100 has the filter, so it'd be interesting to know whether or not mine's been rebuilt.


Got a picture of it? I don't believe they are factory, but plenty of people install them, so I wouldn't assume that means the unit has been rebuilt.

 

[Torkenstein]

I have a 2001 6.8 L Ford Triton modular V-10 in an E-350 running just fine on Valvoline Syn Power 5W-20 and the Motorcraft FL-820S with zero oil consumption.

My concern is not lubrication but the propensity of these early Ford 2V modular engines blowing out spark plugs, as already mentioned by Brent_G.

 

[Brent_G]

I think there was a TSB or its in the service manual that the dealerships are to install a inline filter when installing a new/rebuilt trans.

Originally Posted By: Torkenstein
I have a 2001 6.8 L Ford Triton modular V-10 in an E-350 running just fine on Valvoline Syn Power 5W-20 and the Motorcraft FL-820S with zero oil consumption.

My concern is not lubrication but the propensity of these early Ford 2V modular engines blowing out spark plugs, as already mentioned by Brent_G.


Lubrication wise i think these old 2v could run off of chicken noodle soup, they are by far some of the most forgiving and durable engines we have ever had in our trucks. Plugs are definitely an issue but properly installed/torqued lowers the chance by far. Only had one launch on a 2000, but that was at 140k with the factory installed plug.

 

[solorexpy]

Originally Posted By: Torkenstein
I have a 2001 6.8 L Ford Triton modular V-10 in an E-350 running just fine on Valvoline Syn Power 5W-20 and the Motorcraft FL-820S with zero oil consumption.

My concern is not lubrication but the propensity of these early Ford 2V modular engines blowing out spark plugs, as already mentioned by Brent_G.


Lubrication wise i think these old 2v could run off of chicken noodle soup, they are by far some of the most forgiving and durable engines we have ever had in our trucks. Plugs are definitely an issue but properly installed/torqued lowers the chance by far. Only had one launch on a 2000, but that was at 140k with the factory installed plug.

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I've been paranoid about my spark plugs blowing out since I found out about the issue. I don't know the condition of the plugs and if they've ever been changed. Since the thing runs great I don't plan on pulling any plugs to find out!

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: Brent_G
I think there was a TSB or its in the service manual that the dealerships are to install a inline filter when installing a new/rebuilt trans.

Originally Posted By: Torkenstein
I have a 2001 6.8 L Ford Triton modular V-10 in an E-350 running just fine on Valvoline Syn Power 5W-20 and the Motorcraft FL-820S with zero oil consumption.

My concern is not lubrication but the propensity of these early Ford 2V modular engines blowing out spark plugs, as already mentioned by Brent_G.


Lubrication wise i think these old 2v could run off of chicken noodle soup, they are by far some of the most forgiving and durable engines we have ever had in our trucks. Plugs are definitely an issue but properly installed/torqued lowers the chance by far. Only had one launch on a 2000, but that was at 140k with the factory installed plug.



Did the 2000 have copper or platinum? Our 2001 F350 5.4 has copper plugs and has them listed to chnage every 30K miles.

 

[Brent_G]

I honestly can't remember. I'm doing them in my truck in the next few weeks finally as they are original with 140k.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
Originally Posted By: Brent_G
I think there was a TSB or its in the service manual that the dealerships are to install a inline filter when installing a new/rebuilt trans.

Originally Posted By: Torkenstein
I have a 2001 6.8 L Ford Triton modular V-10 in an E-350 running just fine on Valvoline Syn Power 5W-20 and the Motorcraft FL-820S with zero oil consumption.

My concern is not lubrication but the propensity of these early Ford 2V modular engines blowing out spark plugs, as already mentioned by Brent_G.


Lubrication wise i think these old 2v could run off of chicken noodle soup, they are by far some of the most forgiving and durable engines we have ever had in our trucks. Plugs are definitely an issue but properly installed/torqued lowers the chance by far. Only had one launch on a 2000, but that was at 140k with the factory installed plug.



Did the 2000 have copper or platinum? Our 2001 F350 5.4 has copper plugs and has them listed to chnage every 30K miles.


F-150/Expedition had the platinum plugs. That's wild that your F-350 has copper ones

 

[Brent_G]

I really would not want to have to do plugs in a 5.4 every 30k. I think that falls under cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[TFB1]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Well, the MMO has thinned your oil which may not be a good thing for an engine designed around 5w-30 (as the first-gen Modulars were and then back-spec'd to 5w-20).

I would have skipped the additive and just run a good oil at a sane interval.


Agreed, the MM would thin that 5W-20 down to probably a 10W oil... Assuming the engine really needed it(easy enough to peer in the oil fill to see if it's dirty) I'd have dumped that MMO into a change of 10W-40...

 

[solorexpy]

Originally Posted By: Brent_G
I honestly can't remember. I'm doing them in my truck in the next few weeks finally as they are original with 140k.


Let us know how that goes and if you run across any stripped threads. Do you plan on spraying any penetrating lube or MMO, etc down the spark plug shafts prior to removing the plugs?

 

[Brent_G]

Nope. The 2v dont have the plugs that weld them in like the 3v, and i have never had a problem with them. Keeping them in is harder then getting them out

 

[solorexpy]

Originally Posted By: Brent_G
Nope. The 2v dont have the plugs that weld them in like the 3v, and i have never had a problem with them. Keeping them in is harder then getting them out

Do you put anything on the threads of the new plugs?