10-15 year old car switching to syn philosophical

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This post was inspired by posts we see where people want to switch a 10 or 15 year old car, that maybe has mechanical issues as well, to synthetic.

I just thought it was interesting that in some cases the car has to wait 10 or 15 years and get to the 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th owner before someone starts caring about the car and trying to maintain it properly. Not saying using conventional isn't proper maintenance, but if someone is interested in what kind of oil is going inside their engine clearly they have maintenance in mind.

Why do you think this is? If you can afford a new car you can also afford to treat it like a disposable item?
 
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What's wrong with conventional. Some actually stand up to heat even better than some full syn. Modern SN conventional is likely part synthetic anyway. PYB for instance.
 
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Why do you think this is? If you can afford a new car you can also afford to treat it like a disposable item?


Just a simple matter of economics. If you put a lot of money into an older car you know you're going to get rid of soon, then people feel that they might be throwing good money after bad. After all, if you spend $500-$1000 fixing the car up, you probably won't get that money back when you sell it.
 
The issue is not type of oil...conventional or synthetic (or blend)....it's discovering through experience which BRAND/weight range/type YOUR engine likes best.

...everyone's experiences here, and their posts, should prove that no one oil works best for every engine....
 
I remember, as a teenager, when I bought my first car, which happened to be in that age bracket.

I did not have much money to by the car, but once I had it, it would only get (what I thought was) the best.

It was probably washed and polished more than it ever had been in it's life.

If synthetic oil had been available,it would have got it.

Teenagers waste money in all sorts of ways.
 
A lot of new cars spec 0w20 oil. So the car is getting a blend or full syn, just by sticking to the OEM specs.

Oh, and who cares - conventional changed on time is great in my book! As in if, they actually have maintenance records on the car - that's awesome, who cares what they used.
 
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
I just thought it was interesting that in some cases the car has to wait 10 or 15 years and get to the 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th owner before someone starts caring about the car and trying to maintain it properly.


Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Not saying using conventional isn't proper maintenance


To me, this is exactly what you are saying. A 15 year old vehicle that has never seen synthetic has not been neglected or mistreated.

Aside from a vehicle which requires synthetic, show me where one on the synthetic diet has outlasted a like vehicle on the conventional diet its whole life.
 
I bought a 2003 Accord in 2012 with 93K Km on the odometer.
The car was in mint condition ( mechanically and bodily) and that gave me motivation to care for it bit more. I confess that if the car would have been a POS already I wouldn't have bothered that much . First thing I did was changed all the fluids.
I was new to oils etc so by general belief I pored Mobil1 5W20 in it with mobil 1 EP filter. I didn't know what oil the car had earlier because I bought it from a dealer and I didn't have any contact with the previous owner.
Car is driving smooth. Only issue I am facing is that car is buring oil ( almost 1 liter between OCI which is 6 months to me as I only do 5k to 6k km in 6 months)
Now I do not know whether car was buring oil before or not. May be the previous owner was running it on conventional oil and it was not burning any oil. So I have no way to know if changing to synthetic caused the oil burning issue.
I think I wont change back to conventional though
 
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I remember, as a teenager, when I bought my first car, which happened to be in that age bracket.

I did not have much money to by the car, but once I had it, it would only get (what I thought was) the best.

It was probably washed and polished more than it ever had been in it's life.

If synthetic oil had been available,it would have got it.

Teenagers waste money in all sorts of ways.


I did this too. In fact those habits kind of die hard. Even though I now know much more about oil than my friends and family even care about (thanks to BITOG) I still get the 5000 mile itch sometimes....
 
Originally Posted By: KitaCam
The issue is not type of oil...conventional or synthetic (or blend)....it's discovering through experience which BRAND/weight range/type YOUR engine likes best.

...everyone's experiences here, and their posts, should prove that no one oil works best for every engine....


^^This
 
Saw my friend Jennifer last Sat who has a 98 Nissan Altima. It's almost at the 400,000 mile mark. Only oil that car has ever seen since new is Pennzoil conventional 10W30 every 3000 miles. Engine is so quiet you can't even hear it running. Uses no oil,leaks no oil,and tailpipe is spotless.
 
Originally Posted By: zach1900
Cars aren't appreciating assets no matter how much synthetic oil you put in them.


Mine are, and I do







Z
 
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Why do you think this is? If you can afford a new car you can also afford to treat it like a disposable item?


Just a simple matter of economics. If you put a lot of money into an older car you know you're going to get rid of soon, then people feel that they might be throwing good money after bad. After all, if you spend $500-$1000 fixing the car up, you probably won't get that money back when you sell it.


My dad used to tell me this. I always responded that I wasn't fixing it up so that I could sell it for more. You get your money back by driving it until it is used up. Quite a while back, there was a post here by a gentleman complaining that he only was offered $500 trade-in on his twenty year old automobile with 200k+ "trouble free miles". "I guess there's no payoff in maintaining your automobile if you don't get anything for it on trade". I gently reminded him that the payoff for maintaining his automobile meticulously was "200k+ trouble free miles".
 
What's up with the Debbie downers around here? Sheesh from the tone of many of the guys around here I should go read my owners manual, match the letters in there with the ones on the oil label and call it good. I mean, seriously, why debat it when the owners manual just tells me what to use.

So why does this forum exist again?

Why would someone want to put synthetic in a 10 year old car on its 4th owner? Why would one want to be lazy and not find a good oil to use in their new to them car?

Some like to drink beer.
Some like to go to the bar.
Some like to debate who is the best at throwing a ball around.
And some like to think about what's going into their car.

Personally, if I'm going to spend money maintaining my 8 year old 3rd owner car, then I don't mind spending maybe a little more putting what I feel is the best for my price point into it.

Then again, the manufactures are perfect...and the Dodge 2.7l never happened....
 
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Originally Posted By: zach1900
Cars aren't appreciating assets no matter how much synthetic oil you put in them.


Mine are, and I do







Z


Stunning!
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: zray

Mine are, and I do


Z

Stunning!
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I agree. Some of the best Mustang ever were in the 60's
 
The old 289 was one Fords best in my opinion.

But I have to admit, when I just took an 1100 mile trip in the Mustsng to Austin and back, I was wishing for an Air Force tanker for in flight re-fueling. The plus was those 4 Weber's carbs give you an incredible midrange boost in torque and horsepower. Which you need so you can forget the Niagra Falls type sound of all 8 accelerator pump nozzles in action.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/vintage-mustang-forum/876250-great-drive.html


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