0W-20: Which one from among these three choices:

[btanchors]

All,

I thought I had seen a recent thread along these lines, but a search revealed nothing exactly along these lines.

Today I took delivery of a 2011 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V8. The manual recommends either 0W-20 or 5W-20, with a preference for 0W-20 for improved fuel economy. Since the vehicle is obviously under warranty, I intend to stick pretty close to manufacturer's recommendations. I have therefore settled on using 0W-20.

Given that, which 0W-20 would you choose from among these three - Redline, Amsoil, or Mobil 1? I know all three are excellent choices, but this *IS* BITOG, after all, so let's debate

Flashpoints do seem to differ somewhat:

Redline: 421
Mobil 1: 457
Amsoil: 442

HTHS:
Redline: 2.7
Amsoil: 2.8
Mobil 1: 2.6

NOACK:
Redline: 9
Amsoil: 8.6
Mobil 1: Unspecified

Viscosity at 100 degrees C:
Redline: 8.2
Amsoil: 9.0
Mobil 1: 8.5

Pour Point:
Redline: -76
Amsoil: -65
Mobil 1: Unspecified

Viscosity Index:
Redline: 166
Amsoil: 165
Mobil 1: 170

Comments? Which would you choose, and why?

 

[Steve S]

If I wanted to pick one of those three I would do a run of each and use the seat dino. I am sure they are all different. Probably there wouldn't be a difference noticed untill some extreme is reached even then???

 

[Unearthed]

Whichever you can get cheapest, cause neither you nor your engine will notice a difference.

 

[Eddie]

Amsoil because of HTHS, NOACK & Viscosity @ 100 C. However; as unearthed stated the best bang-for-buck is the cheapest you can find for that engine.

 

[Johnny]

Since it is under warranty and you want to stay as close as you can to manufactures recommendations, I would think the clear choice would be the Mobil 1 0W-20, since it is a fully licensed API oil. You could also use the Toyota 0W-20 oil. The Mobil 1 website does say this about the 0W-20:

Mobil 1 0W-20 Advanced Fuel Economy meets or exceeds the industry's toughest standards in its class and outperforms all conventional motor oils. It offers exceptional performance under all operating conditions, pours at temperatures as low as -53°F (-47°C) and protects at oil temperatures as high as 400°F (205°C).

You can also buy it off the shelf at your local Walmart.

 

[svhanc]

Toyota 0W20 is a pretty good oil, why not consider it?

 

[Steve S]

I had to come back and add, pick the one with the license for warranty just in case. Not that any of the oils are bad and I would run any of them without reservation if someone gave the oil to me.

 

[C4Dave]

Mobil 1 and save the receipts. It is readily available, cheaper, and will work as well as the others. API certified oil only on an engine under warranty.

 

[ChiTDI]

Cost and convenience aside, each would deliver 500k in that truck with proper care. Phenomenal oils. Let's talk tranny fluid and I think the situation would change.

 

[btanchors]

All -

I didn't think I would receive so many responses so quickly!

I almost forgot about the API certification - I know Amsoil claims this isn't a requirement, but it certainly eliminates any possibility of it even becoming an arguement in the event of a warranty claim.

The wife also feels comfortable with Mobil 1, given that I have had so much experience with it.

Finally, I forgot one other thing before I posted the question: This engine has a fairly large sump - 2 gallons when replacing the filter, and 2 gallons of Mobil 1 at Walmart is the cheapest of the three. Plus, given that the manual requires 5K intervals, it would probably be a waste of money for Redline and Amsoil.

This was a much easier decision than I thought it was going to be. Mobil 1 it is! [Although, I was looking forward to trying Redline and Amsoil, it will have to wait until after warranty!]

 

[Errtt]

OP for Mobil Pour Point says "Unspecified", but Johnny's post states a pour point of -53F. What's up with that.
Also, "Mobile 1 outperforms all conventional motor oils". Is that a fair statement?

No matter, I think any of the oils are exceptional. (I'm not trying to dog Mobile, just curious). I used mobile in my Silverado.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Errtt
OP for Mobil Pour Point says "Unspecified", but Johnny's post states a pour point of -53F. What's up with that.
Also, "Mobile 1 outperforms all conventional motor oils". Is that a fair statement?

No matter, I think any of the oils are exceptional. (I'm not trying to dog Mobile, just curious). I used mobile in my Silverado.
I would have to say that M1 outperforms conventional motor oil, but then only if you use or need the outperforming part.

 

[K20FA5]

M1 and call it good

 

[A_Harman]

Mobil 1 because of its easy availability and relatively low price. Redline's 0w-oils don't really stand out from the crowd. Mobil's flashpoint is higher, so maybe the NOACK would be higher? AMSOil has the best overall specs there, but is more expensive than the M1.

 

[river_rat]

Congrats on the new truck!
Of the three, I would go with Mobil 1 for licensing reasons already mentioned. Otherwise Toyota OEM (which is not API licensed, but obviously for Toyotas) It has a lot--like 800ppm--of moly in it.

 

[mechanicx]

M1 while under warranty if you are going to go with 0w20, but even with "cheaper" Mobil 1 I would not feel comfortable with ~8 qts every 5K miles. So I'd go with 5W20 conventional.

 

[lui]

toyota 0w20....its cheaper than all those oil's you have listed and will perform just as good.

 

[chubbs1]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
Since it is under warranty and you want to stay as close as you can to manufactures recommendations, I would think the clear choice would be the Mobil 1 0W-20, since it is a fully licensed API oil. You could also use the Toyota 0W-20 oil. The Mobil 1 website does say this about the 0W-20:

Mobil 1 0W-20 Advanced Fuel Economy meets or exceeds the industry's toughest standards in its class and outperforms all conventional motor oils. It offers exceptional performance under all operating conditions, pours at temperatures as low as -53°F (-47°C) and protects at oil temperatures as high as 400°F (205°C).

You can also buy it off the shelf at your local Walmart.


+1 Stick with this for warranty. Second Amsoil.

 

[rpn453]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
M1 while under warranty if you are going to go with 0w20, but even with "cheaper" Mobil 1 I would not feel comfortable with ~8 qts every 5K miles. So I'd go with 5W20 conventional.


I agree. For short intervals in a moderate climate I'd save my money and go with a conventional 5W-20.

 

[dparm]

AFE absolutely. Readily available and meets mfg specs.

Once you're out of warranty (or if you're truly adventurous) you can try something like Renewable Lubricants 0w20.