2017 Porsche Panamera 4. Factory 0w-20 too thin for southwest?

[coulter]

I've been doing my own oil changes with a Panamera 4. I've been using the factory recommended 0w-20, in this case Motul Specific. Have been ordering it online, a bit pricey.

Wondering if:

A) There's an easier to find Mobil 1 product locally that meets the same certifications

B) would a thicker oil be better for where I live (Arizona) such as 5w-30?

My understanding is much of the really thin oils are to hit fuel economy regulations at the expense of engine life. Would a different viscosity be better for my application?

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[skyactiv]

You look at your engine oil temp yet on a hot day after the engine is warmed up in both city and highway driving? A VW 504 oil would be my choice out of warranty.

 

[GMBoy]

We service a few Panameras, you didn't say which motor but we service a base 3.6L as well as a Turbo model and both get 0w/40 Euro synthetic and very good results. The 3.6 model is a 2012 and the turbo is a 2019.

 

[coulter]

It's the base model, 3.0L turbo.

Recommended viscosity is 0w-20.

Do you recommend 0w-40 Mobil 1 Euro Car Formula?

 

[Astro14]

The Mobil 1 0W40 is a great oil.

What are your oil temps when driving in summer?

 

[The Critic]

A) Yes, ESP 0W20:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/5020133446

B) Debatable, but I do not see a reason to use the older C40 formulations being recommended.

 

[coulter]

I'll have to get back with everyone on oil temps, dont know off hand.

 

[GMBoy]

It's the base model, 3.0L turbo.

Recommended viscosity is 0w-20.

Do you recommend 0w-40 Mobil 1 Euro Car Formula?

Yes I do. If you research this online you will also see the preferred oil is the 40wt. You could also go 5w/30 if that makes you more comfortable and that would put you in the middle of the range (between 20 and 40 wts) yet, in my opinion, still be giving better protection over the 0w/20.

Again - we run M1 0w/40 Euro in just about every Porsche, Mercedes/AMG, BMW/M series and Audis we service. The one's that don't have the Mobil 1 will have Castrol since some BMW owners want only the brand on the oil cap and we oblige.

 

[The Critic]

Yes I do. If you research this online you will also see the preferred oil is the 40wt. You could also go 5w/30 if that makes you more comfortable and that would put you in the middle of the range (between 20 and 40 wts) yet, in my opinion, still be giving better protection over the 0w/20.

Not correct. A lot of recent Porsches have gone to a C20 approved oil.

Again - we run M1 0w/40 Euro in just about every Porsche, Mercedes/AMG, BMW/M series and Audis we service. The one's that don't have the Mobil 1 will have Castrol since some BMW owners want only the brand on the oil cap and we oblige.

That is probably the wrong oil for many of them built after 2015ish. You might want to recheck.

 

[coulter]

I'm not someone that spends a lot of time on this subject, but what would be the "fall out" for using the 0w-40 in my engine in climate that never goes below freezing? Is it too thick?

Do you know if the 0w-20 is just a US recommendation for Porsche for newer fuel economy standards?

 

[Astro14]

I'm not someone that spends a lot of time on this subject, but what would be the "fall out" for using the 0w-40 in my engine in climate that never goes below freezing? Is it too thick?

Do you know if the 0w-20 is just a US recommendation for Porsche for newer fuel economy standards?

Opinions on the fuel economy imperative/requirement will vary.

There is no real downside to the 0W40 Mobil 1. It’s an excellent oil.

 

[TiGeo]

There are many posts here on the topic "Is my xyz oil too thin becuase of the hot temp where I live?" Your oil temp should guide this and I can't see a normally driven use case where you would need a higher grade oil because of ambient temps. If you just are trying to justify running a thicker oil you don't need to...your engine will happily run a 30 or 40 grade without fuss if that makes you feel more comfortable.

 

[GMBoy]

Not correct. A lot of recent Porsches have gone to a C20 approved oil.


That is probably the wrong oil for many of them built after 2015ish. You might want to recheck.

Good points for sure, thank you.

 

[TiGeo]

Not correct. A lot of recent Porsches have gone to a C20 approved oil.


That is probably the wrong oil for many of them built after 2015ish. You might want to recheck.

You are talking about the 2015+ using a lower-SAPS oil vs. the older full-SAPS 40 grades correct?

 

[The Critic]

You are talking about the 2015+ using a lower-SAPS oil vs. the older full-SAPS 40 grades correct?

Yes

 

[coulter]

Oil temp high is around 214 degrees F.

 

[TiGeo]

Oil temp high is around 214 degrees F.

You are perfectly fine with the 0W20.

 

[wemay]

Oil temp high is around 214 degrees F.

0w20, and especially a Porsche approved 0w20 will have no issues at that temperature.

 

[coulter]

Thanks for the feedback. Like everyone else here, I'm more looking for a "better" option than what the factory recommends. If 0w-20 is the best, that's fine, but I never had any fears it would grenade my engine.
It seemed to me, in my climate where cold weather starting is not as much a concern, I could go with something thicker and get better protection.

 

[The Critic]

Oil temp high is around 214 degrees F.

That’s nothing. My Ram specs 5W20 and I have seen oil temps over 250f; some people have reported as high as 290f while towing in the mountains.