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Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter #4596711
12/07/17 12:25 AM
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Got this on RockAuto for less than $5. It looks to take aim at the higher end filters. The look and feel of it, I would say much better than you expect for less than 5 dollars. Thick metal can and a slightly textured paint. On the box it claims 99% efficiency at 20 microns. Made in Korea.

Enjoy!









Last edited by Run; 12/07/17 12:30 AM.

03 Neon 2.0 - VSP 5W-30 Pentius XL
Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4596714
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Looks like a nicely built filter for less than $5. Good efficiency too.

Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4596737
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Looks like the stp extended filter and the pronto extended life. Must be the same factory.


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Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4596836
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Originally Posted By: Kage860
Looks like the stp extended filter....... Must be the same factory.

Bingo. At first look thinking same thing. Though recent production of the AZ STPXL shows a coo of China, from previous S Korea. RA having older stock likely still have the latter coo. As an aside, looking at the adbv baseplate design leads me to wonder if the adbv might show some indentions post use. The AZ S3614XL linked.

https://www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-filter/stp-extended-life-oil-filter/663636_0_6864



Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4596867
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I looked at that exact filter (same model #) on RA and thought it was an excellent deal.....but as usual, the RA shipping charges killed the deal for me.


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #4596904
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Looks like a nicely built filter for less than $5. Good efficiency too.


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99% at 20 micron MULTI pass is not that great at all.

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99% at 20 micron SINGLE pass is "good" efficiency


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Linctex] #4597125
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Looks like a nicely built filter for less than $5. Good efficiency too.
99% at 20 micron MULTI pass is not that great at all.

99% at 20 micron SINGLE pass is "good" efficiency.

Nobody uses single pass sfficiency anymore, they use ISO 4548-12 and have been since around 2000, and it has become the industry standard.

I haven't seen any cross correlation between single pass and multi-pass efficiency.

Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #4597171
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^^^ Was going to post similar but figured since addressed to you, let you reply. Though I don't see 4548-12 on the Pentius box, in this case I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt stating multipass. The clone STP XL notes "99% Efficiency @ > 20 Microns" ISO 4548-12.

All that said, beyond posting accurate information no vested interest here. I don't buy filters from RA and highly unlikely I'd use an STP XL unless part of a 'stellar' AZ oil/filter combo promo. Rarely if ever see one of those. That and AZ STP filters have no 7317 application I use, making it more unlikely.

Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #4597320
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix

Nobody uses single pass sfficiency anymore, they use ISO 4548-12


Good to know, I stand corrected


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4597337
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Has all the nice features and done right. Too bad it doesn't have USA on it. Good to see they stay with the 99% @ 20 number and don't try to fudge it higher with no actual data, rounding off 98.67% to 99% is OK.

Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4597361
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CUT IT OPEN! slobber


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Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Linctex] #4597364
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix

Nobody uses single pass sfficiency anymore, they use ISO 4548-12
Good to know, I stand corrected.

If you look at how the ISO 4812-12 test is conducted, it continuously monitors the cleanliness of the oil upstream and downstream of the filter with particle counters to get a real time efficiency.

Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: StevieC] #4597554
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
CUT IT OPEN! slobber

That comes after it's been in service.


03 Neon 2.0 - VSP 5W-30 Pentius XL
Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: Run] #4597557
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Originally Posted By: Run
Originally Posted By: StevieC
CUT IT OPEN! slobber

That comes after it's been in service.


But... But... But... grin2


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Re: Pentius ultraflow extended life LXL3614 oil filter [Re: goodtimes] #4597673
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Originally Posted By: goodtimes
... Good to see they stay with the 99% @ 20 number and don't try to fudge it higher with no actual data, rounding off 98.67% to 99% is OK.

I guess you think if you keep repeating this then others will buy into it or that maybe you'll feel better about whatever filters you have been using. All filters are not equal and do not all have the same efficiency. Some are way less than 99% at 20 microns. Some are 99% at 40 microns (Purolator Boss), not at 20 microns. One that we know of (WIX XP/NAPA Platinum) is 50% at 20 microns. WIX/NAPA Gold is 95% at 20 microns. FRAM Ultra is 99+% at 20 microns. Most of the old Purolator PureONE yellow filters were 99.9% at 20 microns, and so on .... Anyway, in my opinion, if the filter has an efficiency of 95% or greater at 20 microns, then that's more than good enough for me.

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