New Tesla Truck - 500mi Range, 1M mi Guarantee

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Originally Posted By: dareo
Can you imagine what one of these rolling toxic waste carts will be like in a serious accident? Think Galaxy Note 7 x 1 million.


Seems entirely logical. If any ever make it to the real world...
 
Originally Posted By: Linctex
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Another thing that never needs changing is the windshield, as the glass is so strong it can withstand a thermo-nuclear explosion blast.


What kind of wild donkey claim is that?!?!?!


Yes, that little gem jumped off the page for me, too. Made me doubt the seriousness of the entire story.

Tesla is flailing.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
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Elon Musk is already well on the way to revolutionizing the car industry for its inevitable electric future. But late yesterday, Musk revealed how he plans to do the same for the trucking industry with the Tesla Semi.

On stage the Semi looked great, on paper it looks almost unbelievable.

As The Verge reports, the Tesla Semi promises to deliver a 500-mile range on a single charge. To be clear, that's 500 miles driving with 80,000 pounds of cargo loaded in the back. While carrying all that weight the Semi can reach speeds of 65mph up a 5 percent grade climb (diesel trucks only manage 45mph) and the Semi easily out-accelerates a diesel truck regardless of the weight being carried.

Other impressive features Musk divulged included a 400-mile range achieved with only a 30-minute charge. Four independent motors on the rear axles allow Tesla to make it impossible for the Semi to jackknife. It also means you'll never have to change the brake pads, as most of the kinetic braking energy gets fed back into the battery rather than wearing the pads down. ....

Another thing that never needs changing is the windshield, as the glass is so strong it can withstand a thermo-nuclear explosion blast. Other safety features include automatic emergency braking, automatic lane keeping, and a forward-collision warning system.

What Tesla promises with the Semi is a truck that's simply more economical, reliable, safer, faster, and environmentally friendly compared to diesel trucks. The reliability is backed up by a million-mile drivetrain guarantee, it says. *

As for economics, Musk broke it down to a cost per mile. Simply put, a diesel truck costs $1.51 per mile travelled taking into account the total cost of operation. The Tesla Semi only costs $1.26 per mile, and that's carrying 80,000 pounds and travelling at an average speed of 60mph.

The Tesla Semi can be ordered now with production beginning in 2019. Reservations require a $5,000 deposit and Bloomberg reports grocery chain Meijer Inc. was first out of the blocks, reserving four Semi trucks to add to its fleet. Final pricing has yet to be revealed.

Also last night, Musk revealed a brand new high-tech car: a revamped Tesla Roadster he brought on stage in the back of a Semi.

* Batteries not included.



https://www.pcmag.com/news/357443/tesla-semi-truck-500-mile-range-1-million-mile-guarantee





There. Fixed it.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Here's the tractive effort curves from Cummins...
https://cumminsengines.com/uploads/docs/cummins_secrets_of_better_fuel_economy.pdf



Given the close coupled electric motors, say 200hp for a first approximation...150KW makes the math easier.

500 miles at 60 miles per hour is 8.3 hours...1.25MWh of storage...

Six of these...mira alto substation has nearly 400 of these cubicles at 210KWh each...
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That 264 HP is road load, not engine output, so the required output of the electric motors would be closer to 200 kW, not 150. So the electric storage becomes more like 1.66 MW*hr. And that's if there is no headwind and it doesn't have to climb any hills.
 
What's difficult to understand about the number 25?

Yes, Loblaws in Canada has pre-ordered 25, and Walmart has pre ordered 15 (10 of these for Walmart Canada).

Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: Warstud
Walmart announced that it is buying 5 of those to test out.


Originally Posted By: StevieC
Big grocery store chain here just ordered 25 of these trucks.

https://www.thestar.com/business/2017/11...osed-price.html



Dunno about 25 of them, but 5 for Walmart is probably a drop in the bucket--if it pans out like Musk says, it'll be good to be on board early. If it flops, well, it's Walmart--they can write it off.
 
The ones that are pre-ordering get bragging rights about their green credentials RIGHT NOW .... for only the cost of a deposit.

They can brag about their green credentials.
Musk can brag about industry confidence in his offerings.

It's a win win.

Until they have to put the 2MW charging stations in so that the trucks charge while unloading, etc. etc..

But right now, it's perfect for both parties to be talking about the vaporware.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Build a few toys for rich people, and all of a sudden you can just claim ANYTHING you want to claim .


Shannow said it best. Pure vaporware talk...
 
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