Completely agree. I had about 9500 on my hitch last year, WITH the Sumo Springs I have listed in the FS forum, and there were a few times I was reminded that if I did something stupid or if a tire blew… that trailer was running the show, full stop. The truck had no problem pulling or stopping the trailer; it was the fact that a 9500lb trailer makes quick work of a 5500lb truck if things go sideways, literally.The issue is that with the "max tow" package Ford states IT CAN TOW 11,000 pounds. Which is silly. He should be no more than around 7,000 pounds.
My initial thoughts aligned with yours. But then, we don't have numbers to know define what a "smokin deal" actually was. A smoking deal to the OP's buddy may not have been a smoking deal to you or me.Well, clear evidence here that dealers are no longer in the situation that they were in 2021 when they had us over a barrel, and they're willing to deal. Useful for the community.
Anything else I could have said, has already been said, so I'll leave it at that.
Well ok one other thing, there's no way a couple of years ago this would have made sense due to the cost of diesel. But, in my area diesel is almost at parity with regular unleaded today, hope it stays that way for your friend's sake.
If I needed a truck now it would be a Ram. I'm partial to the 5.7 eTorque design. GM cylinder deactivation if it's still operating as it did a few years ago has been problematic. For some reason specifically cylinder 6 likes to wipe out cam lobes according to the 3 guys I know with these trucks that all had the same problem. Ford hosed me on another vehicle, not my F150 and that left too sour of a taste in my mouth to have another Ford product. I've liked this latest Ram since it came out and if it had been out when I bought my F150 I would likely have had one of those instead. I may still have it if that was the case.Ford and GM are the only options? That should narrow it down plenty for him, especially if he’s going to take your advice and stay away from any turbos and the coyotes.
You want suggestions? Ram with a 5.7l or a 6.4l. I will say that I am biased though.
If I needed a truck now it would be a Ram. I'm partial to the 5.7 eTorque design. GM cylinder deactivation if it's still operating as it did a few years ago has been problematic. For some reason specifically cylinder 6 likes to wipe out cam lobes according to the 3 guys I know with these trucks that all had the same problem. Ford hosed me on another vehicle, not my F150 and that left too sour of a taste in my mouth to have another Ford product. I've liked this latest Ram since it came out and if it had been out when I bought my F150 I would likely have had one of those instead. I may still have it if that was the case.
I don't have one though and I don't need a truck so it wouldn't happen regardless.Auto supplier and OEM relationships - 6 automakers studied
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