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Given the recent dumpings we've had here, I've had lots of opportunity to try out the Charger in snow, on ice....etc. It has close to a perfect 50/50 weight balance too, and (aggressive) traction control (thanks to DBW). My benchmark for winter performance has been and continues to be the Expedition, a vehicle that became that much better on ice with the fitment of the LTX M/S2's before last winter.
The Expedition weighs a bit over 6,000lbs according to the dump scales with 1/4 tank of gas. The Charger weighs a tad more than 4,000lbs, a touch lighter than the M5.
The Charger was fitted with the Hankook iPike winter tires. It feels confident and competent in snow; far more so than the M5 on the Blizzak's, likely due to the tires being a lot narrower (the M5 was on 245 and 275 skis).
That said, the Expedition is still massively better in snow. Massively better on ice. It stops better, it goes better, even in 2WD. I assume some of this has to do with the 2,000lb weight advantage
I keep expecting a car with 4 snows to do better than the truck with the Michelins and it just doesn't happen. We have winter tires (also Hankook) on the work E250 van and the Expedition is still a more competent vehicle in adverse weather conditions.
About the only vehicle I can think that has been better was my buddy's F-250 Super Crew Lariat diesel with BFG A/T's on it and tipping the scales at north of 8,000lbs. It was a BEAST in snow and he always kept a fair pile of scrap steel in the bed to keep weight on the rear axle.
All that said, I haven't gotten stuck on a hill or had to back down from a grade or anything with the Charger. I did with the M5. I enjoy driving it, it gets up to temp very fast (Clevy.... you mentioned this about yours) and has great seat heat
The Expedition weighs a bit over 6,000lbs according to the dump scales with 1/4 tank of gas. The Charger weighs a tad more than 4,000lbs, a touch lighter than the M5.
The Charger was fitted with the Hankook iPike winter tires. It feels confident and competent in snow; far more so than the M5 on the Blizzak's, likely due to the tires being a lot narrower (the M5 was on 245 and 275 skis).
That said, the Expedition is still massively better in snow. Massively better on ice. It stops better, it goes better, even in 2WD. I assume some of this has to do with the 2,000lb weight advantage
I keep expecting a car with 4 snows to do better than the truck with the Michelins and it just doesn't happen. We have winter tires (also Hankook) on the work E250 van and the Expedition is still a more competent vehicle in adverse weather conditions.
About the only vehicle I can think that has been better was my buddy's F-250 Super Crew Lariat diesel with BFG A/T's on it and tipping the scales at north of 8,000lbs. It was a BEAST in snow and he always kept a fair pile of scrap steel in the bed to keep weight on the rear axle.
All that said, I haven't gotten stuck on a hill or had to back down from a grade or anything with the Charger. I did with the M5. I enjoy driving it, it gets up to temp very fast (Clevy.... you mentioned this about yours) and has great seat heat