Would you continue using Mannol?

Nexus2 said:
We don't have Krona in the UK, and Sweden is a long way away!!

They don't 'outclass' Mannol, what are you talking about??
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You don't use Euro either so don't see the point. That site ships from Estonia.
Perhaps Wolfs and Eurolub is not available in U.K idk.

I am talking about this:
Outclass is an understatement. Porsche A40 + 229.51 instead of not even 507.00.

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https://ukla-vls.org.uk/wp-content/...website-publication-notice-as-at-24052025.pdf

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https://ukla-vls.org.uk/case-outcomes/
 
Are those prices for 5l or 20l?

I buy Mannol in 20l drums - £52

I doubt you could buy Fuchs or Total for anything like that price in 20l.

If I could, I doubt it'd be available in the UK.

As I said, never a problem with Mannol, and it is VAG approved (officially).
 
Nexus2 said:
Are those prices for 5l or 20l?

I buy Mannol in 20l drums - £52

I doubt you could buy Fuchs or Total for anything like that price in 20l.

If I could, I doubt it'd be available in the UK.

As I said, never a problem with Mannol, and it is VAG approved (officially).
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Yeah make sure you get the same batch as the "approved" one. Good luck with that.

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"4b. Product Not Compliant Following Six Month Review – Case Not Resolved

This case status refers to a product which is found to be non-compliant at the six month review and further undertakings have not been received from the Named Party to the satisfaction of VLS Supervisory Board to bring the product into continued compliance.

In this instance the case details will be subject to further ongoing investigation and/or referral to a third party statutory authority such as Trading Standards in the case of continued non-cooperation by the Named Party."
 
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TijY_ said:
You don't use Euro either so don't see the point. That site ships from Estonia.
Perhaps Wolfs and Eurolub is not available in U.K idk.

I am talking about this:
Outclass is an understatement. Porsche A40 + 229.51 instead of not even 507.00.

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https://ukla-vls.org.uk/wp-content/...website-publication-notice-as-at-24052025.pdf

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https://ukla-vls.org.uk/case-outcomes/
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Not being compliant with their claims is one thing, producing bad oil is quite another. I accept Mannol have made errors with their claims which are still unresolved in some cases, but this does not negate the quality of their oil. One shouldn't conflate these sorts of errors with the accusation they are scammers producing oil from chip fat. In any event, Mannol 7715 is deemed to be approved by VAG for use in their vehicles which require a 504/507 spec. I'll go with what VAG says and leave the admin errors to others.
 
Nexus2 said:
Not being compliant with their claims is one thing, producing bad oil is quite another. I accept Mannol have made errors with their claims which are still unresolved in some cases, but this does not negate the quality of their oil. One shouldn't conflate these sorts of errors with the accusation they are scammers producing oil from chip fat. In any event, Mannol 7715 is deemed to be approved by VAG for use in their vehicles which require a 504/507 spec. I'll go with what VAG says and leave the admin errors to others.
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Newest list (I could find) with VW504/507 is older then above complaints.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10249418-0001.pdf
 
I've been using Mannol 7715 for a minimum of 12 years with no problems whatsoever. This being the case, I'd have used some of the batches that are deemed non-compliant. I do think they are/have been non-compliant with the industry standard, but it doesn't mean the oil is not fit for purpose. All it means is that they've made claims but not hit the compliant standard. So, this means that they shouldn't put those claims on the container, but it still means it meets the approved standard for VAG vehicles.
 
Nexus2 said:
Not really. Many of their oils are officially approved by VAG, including 7715. I'm sure VAG would be taking them to court if they were making these sorts of claims. Just because errors in approval have been made in the past doesn't make their oil bad, quite the contrary. I tend to go with facts, not with getting upset with trust issues.
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Mannol has to have some magic secret way to make the oil when it can be a Full SAPS and a Mid SAPS at the same time. A3/B4 is a Full SAPS and BMW LL04 is a Low/Mid SAPS. Use a Full SAPS oil in a Diesel engine with DPF can harm the DPF and that is an expensive repair.
And the marketing to be a bouth PAO and Esters based oil but a VOA dont see so much PAO or Esters in the sample makes me to go so far away from Mannol as i can. I used Mannol before until i read a little by the oil.






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Sorry fellas, but the proof is there.

I can't stop people being precious about their motor oil, but I do know that Mannol is an excellent oil despite the non-compliance rulings.

I'll be buying more.
 
Nexus2 said:
Sorry fellas, but the proof is there.

I can't stop people being precious about their motor oil, but I do know that Mannol is an excellent oil despite the non-compliance rulings.

I'll be buying more.
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How do you know whats in the jugs you get ? Do you send in a VOA on the batch every time or do you just pour it in and be fine with that?
 
Fuchs is a premium oil, but often cheaper than known brands like Castrol. Mannol is cheap, but still holds some standards if we know which one to buy.
I won't buy the one with saying Ceramic, this or that additives, those are never good. Stay with approved oil either by API, VW, BWM, or any cars manufacturer.
Most of API SP oil has standard additives, and Mannol have cheap supplier, most likely Belarus.
 
TijY_ said:
There is no competition, they outclass Mannol.

WOLF VITALTECH 5W40 PI C3. 229.51 & 505.01 for your PD.
1 037,77 kr

SCT - MANNOL Motorolja MN7715-20
1 419,13 kr

EUROLUB Synt PDI C3 5W40.
1 055,58 kr

https://aeromotors.se/kategori/117088-motor?layered_id_feature_133[]=512195&layered_id_feature_1595=434023&layered_id_feature_509[]=9043&layered_id_feature_509[]=9045
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505.01 VW is not 504/507 standard, it is thicker, for older cars. They are all good oil, it's just depends what your car need. Thicker maybe better, but maybe not needed either.
 
TijY_ said:
No you don't. You believe, very different.

Now where is that Asylum thread by Overkill. Think I found a candidate.
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No need to resort to childishness.

If it's easier for you, I'll stop following this thread.
 
rondhol said:
505.01 VW is not 504/507 standard, it is thicker, for older cars. They are all good oil, it's just depends what your car need. Thicker maybe better, but maybe not needed either.
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Well its the 1.9 Pumpe Düse in his case, I would be careful going to thin. It had VW505.01 from the start.
I would not trust Mannol 7715 Longlife being VW504/507. Measured at 2.9 and 3.1 HTHS not 3.5 like spec.
 
Nexus2 said:
Sorry fellas, but the proof is there.

I can't stop people being precious about their motor oil, but I do know that Mannol is an excellent oil despite the non-compliance rulings.

I'll be buying more.
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There is no proof.

Yes, Mannol sent an oil off to get an approval, nobody is denying that. What we don't know is if the bottle you buy, that states they have a 504/507 approval actually has that very oil in it that went to be approved.

Imagine buying a pair of shoes on Amazon from a company known for putting the wrong shoes in the correct box. The correct box turns up but you have no idea if the shoes inside are the ones you ordered, and actually, you have little way to check. But it's okay, because you've worn them for years and your feet haven't fallen off.
 
It's failed to meet it's claimed approvals, yet it's an excellent oil? Not in my experience, it's consistently burnt at a much higher rate than better quality oils in my vehicles. Even my lawn mower needs a mid season top up while running it!

Given the tiny difference in price I'm going to continue to avoid their products. Especially since their dot 4 brake fluid was found to be out of specification!
 
Nexus2 said:
Sorry fellas, but the proof is there.

I can't stop people being precious about their motor oil, but I do know that Mannol is an excellent oil despite the non-compliance rulings.

I'll be buying more.
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How do you know that? I'd say you think it's excellent
 
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