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If you keep waiting for the next update you will never be able to upgrade. There is always something new coming out.
 
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Originally Posted By: tmorris1
If you keep waiting for the next update you will never be able to upgrade. There is always something new coming out.


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Unlike version upgrades, sp upgrades are usually pretty easy. In every other version of Windows, the first service pack has been released in under a year. My current employer's policy used to be not to support our software until the first service pack was released, before MS made it impossible to sell the previous version of software.

I'd buy a Windows 7 pc today, and not worry about it.
 
Originally Posted By: Dieseldoctor
Sounds like the mac commercial


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I like the latest commercial making fun of Windows 7.
 
Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Originally Posted By: tmorris1
If you keep waiting for the next update you will never be able to upgrade. There is always something new coming out.


+1


It has nothing to do with "new", it has to do with the perception of when quality is actually attended to. If they stop releasing junk as initial release, no one will feel obligated to wait for SP1. Now instead of quality, they will just rush SP1.

Instead you can just install Ubuntu which people want the day it is released.
 
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Originally Posted By: Dieseldoctor
Sounds like the mac commercial


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I like the latest commercial making fun of Windows 7.
Me too.. I like how PC flashes back to all the previous operating systems and so does his wardrobe.
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Originally Posted By: tmorris1
If you keep waiting for the next update you will never be able to upgrade. There is always something new coming out.


+1


It has nothing to do with "new", it has to do with the perception of when quality is actually attended to. If they stop releasing junk as initial release, no one will feel obligated to wait for SP1. Now instead of quality, they will just rush SP1.

Instead you can just install Ubuntu which people want the day it is released.


Why do you think Windows 7 is junk?

The "people" that download Ubuntu the day it is released are not your average computer users. This is like the Ford vs Chevy or M1 vs Amsoil argument.
 
I think people are just fed up with Microsoft's nonsense and are looking for something fresh/new and not so "restrictive".

I know I am... I'm tired of doing driver updates, virus scans, spyware scans, service packs, security patches etc.

I also hate how the O/S can have a mind of its own and things that worked stop working and or funny random errors appear here/there for no known reason.

They will win me back when they do away with their stupid licensing bull, offer it at a better price and its new code from scratch versus this slop they keep "freshening" up into a new O/S.
 
I guess I think that Windows 7 is pretty nice. I like the new features and it is very stable and performs great for me.

I also run Ubuntu and Fedora and use them for embedded development. It is nice that they are free and they work well, but they still have a ways to go in the user interface and ease of use dept.
 
Originally Posted By: tmorris1
I guess I think that Windows 7 is pretty nice. I like the new features and it is very stable and performs great for me.

I also run Ubuntu and Fedora and use them for embedded development. It is nice that they are free and they work well, but they still have a ways to go in the user interface and ease of use dept.


My wife was able to use Ubuntu 9.04 (and now 9.10) on her laptop without ANY training from me whatsoever. The same goes for my young kids, one of whom is autistic. If someone can already use WindowsXP, the learning curve is not steep at all. They are able to surf the web, use OpenOffice to do stuff that used to be handled by M$ Office, and I've even installed the Windows version of iTunes for them (it runs under Wine).

Windows7 isn't bad. I've got it running on my laptop on a virtual machine so I can get familiar with it because one of my clients is insisting on a mass computer upgrade for their aging Win2K desktops. If you MUST run Windows, that's the one you want as long as you've got sufficient RAM and a decent video card to deal with all the new eye candy. But why get back on the upgrade merry-go-round again and then have to purchase 3rd party programs just to keep naughty people from hacking into your fancy new Windows machine when you can replace all the functionality (for most people) and even the eye candy with something for FREE?

Best,
 
I agree that Ubuntu is easy to use and most people that just surf the web and email wouldn't know the difference between Linux and Windows. I feel that Windows is just more "polished" overall. Installing drivers and new hardware can be a pain if everything isn't supported by the download manager. Software that isn't download through the Ubuntu software manager (can't remember the name right now...) is also not as straight forward to install. I'm not knocking it, but this is just my experience. I think it will continue to improve and give Windows a run for its money though. MS is finally realizing that it has a valid competitor in Linux.
 
If Linux were actually easily useable by the great unwashed masses, it would have eclipsed Windows a long time ago.

But when ya gotta tweak this, edit that, redesign your partition plan, select and configure a bootloader, select repositories, or configure anything in general, you immediately re-format and stick Windows back in there... Take your potshots, but we're talking about the great unwashed masses here.

Linux is just too fragmented to get their sh!te together, and these divisions, those territorially-defended fiefdoms that keep Linux nicely separated into a bunch of camps that will never join up to fight the war, will keep Linux in the losers' column for eternity as far as the average desktop is concerned.

Yes, at the rate Linux is succeeding on the desktop, both Microsoft and Apple will be allowed to continue their legally-sanctioned rip-offs worldwide forever. And the fact that Apple can continue to get away with tacking on their over-priced, sometimes defective proprietary hardware to each and every non-upgrade operating system sale, is in and of itself a testament to how bad some people find Microsoft products to be.

Even Google is trying to do something about this David and Goliath duopoly (who secretly are best friends), although we all know additional profit is at the end of their rainbow in reward for their 'generous' efforts to provide something that empires have been built on and huge fortunes made, for free. They must look at Linux in wonderment.

C'mon, if it's free and it still hasn't made meaningful headway ('meaningful headway' meaning likelihood it will become dominant in your lifetime) on the desktop, then it's gotta suck! For the average user, that is.

I install new versions of it all the time just to see how easily useable it's becoming.
 
I am mainly a Linux user but in defense of Windows 7 one must realize that it is used in many languages, supports many hardware devices and has untold lines of code.

Many people have experienced usage of Windows products while the same does not hold true for Linux, Mac, etc.

For a new Linux User Linux Mint is the version I would recommend as it has the plugins and codex installed that most would need.

Windows ME got a bad rap for many of the same reasons that Vista did. Myriad problems with hardware and much software that ran just fine under XP just would not work. Hunting drivers for printers, etc., was an issue too.

Vista in my opinion for what it is worth is actually not a bad O/S if you have the hardware (RAM, etc.).

Windows 7 has made improvements on drivers, some versions support much of the old XP Software.

There some features in Windows 7 that I am not wild about like the toolbar but some tweaking helps that.
 
Originally Posted By: Ed_T
If Linux were actually easily useable by the great unwashed masses, it would have eclipsed Windows a long time ago.


I don't know where you've been, but you don't get more "technically unwashed" than my 9 year old autistic son and my "art major" wife.

Download Ubuntu 9.10 and install it. It simply works right out of the box and didn't require any tweaking for our relatively mundane home PC and home laptop. It found all the devices by itself (WIFI,scanner,printers,bluetooth mouse,3D video card, shared drives on other computers, etc). Things have come a VERY long way since you've needed to edit config files and tweak things. Give it a try.

Best,
 
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