Wife's CR-V needs struts.

What struts are those? I don't think Bilstein makes B6 for Corolla.
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Tax
5% discount
Shipping are missing but this is crazy expensive for the Corolla.
 
Here’s how I’d approach it. If you expect another 100k out of this car, OEM Honda, no question.

Any less, KYB or Bilstein should be fine. But I’d still get OE mounts and bearings if you can.

KYB and Bilstein are great options but they don’t put the same effort into aftermarket as their OEM offerings. Even though the excel-g and the B4 are marketed as “oem grade” they need to be profitable and it’s impossible to do that for such a small production run compared to OEM. They’re never hyper-customized to the car and there’s a lot of shared tooling involved. They are built to a price point. And they’ll get the job done.
 
It is not, I have installed 4 sets of Monroe complete strut assemblies in different cars during the pandemic, all of them started making noises within 10-15k miles, previously used KYBs for my Toyota and they were making noises within 30-40k miles, replacing them with OEM Toyota solved the issue on the KYB and 1 Monroe set, rest of the vehicles were sold before I could get around wasting my time with warranties.

Quality of after market parts are not what they used to be, quality control went down SIGNIFICANTLY during the pandemic.

Unlike your average joe, I do a complete overhaul of all worn out suspension components whenever I buy a vehicle because I use premium tires, and they are very expensive, all of this is for safety and to prevent premature wear on tires.

Even Duralast struts failed on a friends Honda within 6k miles, and yes that issue was resolved by using "used" OEM Honda struts...I don't have experience with Napa because of cost so I won't say anything about them.


Yes experience, and even recent experience, I can only speak of Toyotas and Hondas, other car manufacturers, I don't have any experience in.


Yea not anymore, pandemic ruined a lot of things, and KYB were never as good as OEM Toyota from my experience.


I completely agree, from my experience, their suspension components significantly outlast OEM Toyota ones.
Please. The reason that new struts don’t go the same distance as factory is that they go onto old, worn out cars. It’s just logical that a 150,000 mile car is going to stress the struts more. We are several years out from the pandemic, and there is no logic to the idea that the world has lost the playbook on building struts. I mean, we still have good tie rod ends and control arms, right? You don’t replace struts every day, but when the time comes, I will be going with KYBs as I have in the past on Hondas. In the parts world, I have found NAPA to be excellent in sourcing decent quality parts. They don’t have snob appeal, but they get the job done. In fact, my Acura/Honda specialist mechanic will install NAPA struts, unless you ask specifically for something else.
 
Here’s how I’d approach it. If you expect another 100k out of this car, OEM Honda, no question.

Any less, KYB or Bilstein should be fine. But I’d still get OE mounts and bearings if you can.

KYB and Bilstein are great options but they don’t put the same effort into aftermarket as their OEM offerings. Even though the excel-g and the B4 are marketed as “oem grade” they need to be profitable and it’s impossible to do that for such a small production run compared to OEM. They’re never hyper-customized to the car and there’s a lot of shared tooling involved. They are built to a price point. And they’ll get the job done.
I think I am going to follow the crowd and go KYB like seems to be the vote. I looked at pricing and they have a reasonable price point and I don't see us putting but maybe another 50K on the vehicle. By that point my boys will be bigger and we will probably look to get a bit more room.

I say that but I have really liked the CR-V its an AWD EX-L and has been just fantastic. So I might keep it as a backup or something. We brought my sons home in it so I am sort of sentimental about it.
 
Please yourself.

The reason that new struts don’t go the same distance as factory is that they go onto old, worn out cars.
Please elaborate, as I mentioned previously, I replaced all worn out suspension components as soon as I get a car, the vehicles aren't "worn out" anymore.

It’s just logical that a 150,000 mile car is going to stress the struts more.
not when the suspension has been refreshed...

We are several years out from the pandemic, and there is no logic to the idea that the world has lost the playbook on building struts.
please stop using the word "logic" because you are not using it correctly, especially considering the fact that you are not taking inflation into account, the price point of parts aren't the same as they used to be before the Pandemic, I have bought countless after market parts as I was an engine rebuilder to put myself and wife through college, a lot of after market parts are now in the same price range as OEM, with an OEM brand like Toyota, you are almost guaranteed good parts when buying OEM.

The last 5 years have been full of poor quality after market parts, especially from my experience, buying new complete strut assemblies that are bad out of the box was a common thing I had to deal with.

Obviously there are still some good after market brands but when it comes to labor, anything labor intensive, it is always best to use the best available parts otherwise doing it again will be a huge waste of time, and time is money, even if you can DIY. Suspension is a labor intensive job, other then sway bar end links.

I mean, we still have good tie rod ends and control arms, right?
OEM is still superior, especially for Toyotas, can't really speak for other car manufacturers.

You don’t replace struts every day
Exactly my point

but when the time comes, I will be going with KYBs as I have in the past on Hondas.
Good idea, but OEM is far superior, especially Honda suspension parts, they are significantly better then Toyota suspension parts from my experience.

In the parts world, I have found NAPA to be excellent in sourcing decent quality parts. They don’t have snob appeal, but they get the job done. In fact, my Acura/Honda specialist mechanic will install NAPA struts, unless you ask specifically for something else.
Can't speak for Napa as I have never tried any of their suspension components, at their price point, I can buy Toyota OEM parts, I never understood the appeal because of cost.
 
Please yourself.


Please elaborate, as I mentioned previously, I replaced all worn out suspension components as soon as I get a car, the vehicles aren't "worn out" anymore.


not when the suspension has been refreshed...


please stop using the word "logic" because you are not using it correctly, especially considering the fact that you are not taking inflation into account, the price point of parts aren't the same as they used to be before the Pandemic, I have bought countless after market parts as I was an engine rebuilder to put myself and wife through college, a lot of after market parts are now in the same price range as OEM, with an OEM brand like Toyota, you are almost guaranteed good parts when buying OEM.

The last 5 years have been full of poor quality after market parts, especially from my experience, buying new complete strut assemblies that are bad out of the box was a common thing I had to deal with.

Obviously there are still some good after market brands but when it comes to labor, anything labor intensive, it is always best to use the best available parts otherwise doing it again will be a huge waste of time, and time is money, even if you can DIY. Suspension is a labor intensive job, other then sway bar end links.


OEM is still superior, especially for Toyotas, can't really speak for other car manufacturers.


Exactly my point


Good idea, but OEM is far superior, especially Honda suspension parts, they are significantly better then Toyota suspension parts from my experience.


Can't speak for Napa as I have never tried any of their suspension components, at their price point, I can buy Toyota OEM parts, I never understood the appeal because of cost.
I think I have watched enough Star Trek, and studied enough moral philosophy, to know I am using the word “logic” correctly.
 
I say that but I have really liked the CR-V its an AWD EX-L and has been just fantastic.
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So I might keep it as a backup or something. We brought my sons home in it so I am sort of sentimental about it.
Yea, I am sure that would mean a lot to me as well.

I still miss my first vehicle, 2000 Honda Civic VP, the suspension on it after 300k miles was still perfect, never ever had any premature tire failure, the good ole days of double wish bone suspension from Honda. The car handled like a champ, I don't remember a single time a turn felt like it was "too fast" since then I have owned Toyotas/Lexus's and their suspension has never handled like the 2000 Honda Civic I had.
 
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Yea, I am sure that would mean a lot to me as well.

I still miss my first vehicle, 2000 Honda Civic VP, the suspension on it after 300k miles was still perfect, never ever had any premature tire failure, the good ole days of double wish bone suspension from Honda. The car handled like a champ, I don't remember a single time a turn felt like it was "too fast" since then I have owned Toyotas/Lexus's and their suspension has never handled like the 2000 Honda Civic I had.
That car was good, but did not have the double wishbone setup.
 
I definitely see the logic there but even if the struts last half as long as the OEM that is still 100K out of them which at this rate is 10 years of use.
The best that I can get out of aftermarket shocks/struts these days is about 2-3 years. If you're only going to keep the CR-V a short time after the strut replacement then fine. However, if you are going to keep'er for any length of time, get the OE.
 
Quick struts in Gerald are horrible. They’ll clunk and basically feel like you welded a tick of iron in place. If your going to reuse your springs then just about anything will work.
 
Here’s how I’d approach it. If you expect another 100k out of this car, OEM Honda, no question.

Any less, KYB or Bilstein should be fine. But I’d still get OE mounts and bearings if you can.

KYB and Bilstein are great options but they don’t put the same effort into aftermarket as their OEM offerings. Even though the excel-g and the B4 are marketed as “oem grade” they need to be profitable and it’s impossible to do that for such a small production run compared to OEM. They’re never hyper-customized to the car and there’s a lot of shared tooling involved. They are built to a price point. And they’ll get the job done.
Bilstein will outlast OE Honda. It also has lifetime warranty.
Bilstein tunes B4 for each application. That is the reason why they are most popular aftermarket upgrade.
 
Wow, the opinions here are quite incongruous. I was going to ask about a famous BITOG member's comment in another thread that Bilstein B4's were nothing special, but based on opinions expressed in this thread, my question would be pointless. What's an OCD person to do??? I like a recent comment here "a person's perception is often their reality" or something close to that.

Anyway, future strut selection for my Patriot is between OEM (2x $), KYB, and B4. Following @troymcclure post, the decision is based on expected ownership time. Good advice.
 
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This thread motivated me to see how much it would cost to replace all the struts assemblies on our daughter's 2009 CR-V using KYB Strut-Plus mentioned several times in this thread (sometimes positively, others times not so positively). With tax, they'd cost ~$750 through Amazon (shipped and sold by Amazon, not a third party). Slightly higher cost from other sources.

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If it’s just sweating you can probably get another 2-3 years out of them. And then see where you are with this car.

I’ve recently replaced front struts on my wife’s pilot (passenger side all leaked out and the strut was shot) with KYB struts, kept OEM spring and replaced bearing and other accessories with OEM Honda parts. Works great
 
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