Why the push for Autonomous driving?
- Thread starter loneryder
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Because people are lazy
And too distracted.
GON
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Very plain and simple reason.
So one is required to pay monthly subscriptions to the automakers to use their cars, on top of the purchase of the car.
So one is required to pay monthly subscriptions to the automakers to use their cars, on top of the purchase of the car.
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Official reason: Reduce fatalities and injuries.
The unofficial reason: Earn advertising revenue from occupants.
Computer controlled fleet of cars can, theoretically, travel at higher speeds more safely. Their problem is decision making rather than reaction speed. Humans are comparatively slow and imprecise.
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With autonomous vehicles, do owners need driver's licenses?
The "Smart Summon" can still roll through a stop sign.... so who/what gets points on their license for moving violations?
Pretty sure this video has been posted and discussed on BITOG before
The "Smart Summon" can still roll through a stop sign.... so who/what gets points on their license for moving violations?
Pretty sure this video has been posted and discussed on BITOG before
The occupant is always responsible for the operation of the vehicle. No different than driving around with bad brakes. The real question is whether the occupant can receive compensation from the automaker for self-driving errors. My guess is it will end up being a negative.
The term "Occupant" is very broad. I can be an occupant of a vehicle and not be responsible for the operation of the vehicle.
If you have 2 occupants in an automonous vehicle and both have driver's licenses, then which occupant is responsible?
In that video, there were no occupants in the vehicle when it rolled through the stop sign.
There's always going to be a driver side or someone who has control of vehicle operation. So if some idiot decides to use the Tesla parking feature on a public street and the car rolls through a stop sign, the individual who has the ability to control the car is responsible.
It's no different and someone forgetting to engage a parking brake.
In my jurisdiction, the registered owner is responsible for offences committed if the identity of the driver is not known. There are no points associated to a registered owner charge - it's a fine only. This is how automated enforcement (red light cameras, photo RADAR/LASER speed enforcement trucks, etc.) work. There is no argument to be made over who was driving. In practice, stolen vehicles tend to be exempted if the proper reports are filed.
As for whether a licence is required, I would suggest not. If a vehicle is truly autonomous, the occupant has no role in operation of the vehicle - see Elon's Robo-Taxi concept. However, there aren't currently any fully autonomous vehicles approved for mainstream use, so all we can do is speculate until they roll out along with the associated laws.
People as a collective are terrible at driving. Autonomous vehicles will continually improve until they are safer per mile driven than human operators.
Beyond those obvious reasons, there are pro/con arguments which will not be resolved in a forum thread.
Their ultimate goal is the have no human controls in the cars, similar to that new space craft. If there are no controls the occupant can not be responsible for any thing.
It's an insurance thing. If insurance companies can "regulate" vehicle accidents out of existence then less pay out for them.
Probably a big chunk of money to make from the people who want it. I don't think I'll ever get tired of driver involvement. Even on a long trip I've never seen driving as a chore. I have driver assists in both of my cars, but I did not pay for any additional driving options over standard on the Tesla because I want to drive it and the GTI has this stuff because it's standard on the Autobahn trim. The assist for safety in a pinch is fine, but I don't want to sit there and watch the car drive.
40,000 people die in automotive crashes every year in America. There are many, many more collisions, reported and unreported, that involve some type of injury.
To put that in perspective, it's like a Boeing 737-Max crashing every single weekday of the year.
Two 737-Max crashes caused all off the airplane type to be grounded for safety reasons and at the time, many travelers swore off ever flying in a 737-Max.
Imagine the scenario: Every day, Monday through Friday, a 737-Max crashes, everyone dies, and we all just accept that as normal and carry on. Any efforts to reduce these deaths are questioned and written off as just another way for companies to make money.
To put that in perspective, it's like a Boeing 737-Max crashing every single weekday of the year.
Two 737-Max crashes caused all off the airplane type to be grounded for safety reasons and at the time, many travelers swore off ever flying in a 737-Max.
Imagine the scenario: Every day, Monday through Friday, a 737-Max crashes, everyone dies, and we all just accept that as normal and carry on. Any efforts to reduce these deaths are questioned and written off as just another way for companies to make money.
Propflux01
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Allows control of roads and travel. if needed, the autonomous vehicles can be stopped or manipulated as needed, nationwide at any time.
This is part of the reason. It's just the first step. The next step, and Elon Musk has talked about it openly, is to replace individually owned cars with a service model where no one owns a car, you order a ride and an autonomous vehicle shows up and takes you where you want to go.
The end goal is the elimination of privately owned and operated transportation.
It's not a monthly subscription unless you choose to do that instead of just paying for the option once and being done with it.
