Why not Valvoline Restore and Protect for average Joe OCIs?

[Legs4Arms]

Nope. My car has been "meticulously maintained" and with 20,000 miles on the clock, still showed particles of carbon in the oil filter after running Valvoline Restore and Protect. It also cleaned the top side a bit (it wasn't "dirty) and made the engine run quieter.
Valvoline Restore and Protect is a winner all the way around.

I'm happy to hear it's working for you
As I said before, if Valvoline Restore and Protect is available to me for $60 per jug, and Mobil 1 0W-40 for $33, I'll run the higher HTHS euro oil every time.

I'm not thrifty either, none of my vehicles see more than 5,000kms per year so the oil that comes out of them once a year is barely discoloured. I'm just not willing to pay twice the price for cleaning when the oil I use is touted as one of the most detergent dense oils going, along with being one of the most robust.

 

[oil pan 4]

Unless someone is tearing down their engine for maintenance inspection, there is no way to see what the rings and lands look like.

If under the valve cover looks brand new the piston ring groves probably aren't that bad.

 

[oil pan 4]

Valvoline Restore and Protect definitely has highly effective and unique cleaning abilities which set it apart from the rest, and Valvoline has understandably marketed it as such. That marketing approach, I believe, is partly to blame for the misconception of Valvoline Restore and Protect as a niche "one trick pony", which Valvoline is battling to some degree now.

A nitch product for tens of millions of people who buy used and actually try to take good care of their engines.

 

[GW.]

What will be your OCI's with AMSOIL Signature Series? Severe Service kind of points to 1 of Amsoil's other oils.

Haven’t decided yet honestly. This is my first oci. Will test it at 5k.

Which Amsoil oil out performs SS in severe service? Or any category.

 

[GW.]

If under the valve cover looks brand new the piston ring groves probably aren't that bad.

That’s a big assumption. Completely different type of deposit. My oil burner was spotless except for the piston grooves at 5k oci’s.

 

[oil pan 4]

It's $30/5 quarts at my Walmart. Not 2x as much as other oils, other than maybe Kirkland oil that's on sale.

If you don't want to it, don't.

Yeah cheapest oil can get that isn't on sale is Royal 15w-40 for $12.73 a gallon. But that's a hdeo.
Cheapest pcmo is usually supertech for around or about $20 a gallon.
Once ina while I'll see a 30wt pcmo for $12 to $20 on clearance.

 

[JGmazda]

Nothing much to add to this discussion except I've read (On BITOG) many consider Valvoline Restore and Protect to be Valvoline's "best" oil. From that, I also remember awhile back when many considered MaxLife a great oil for it's attributes. I think Valvoline Restore and Protect is great choice for many that adhere to 5k (or less) OCI's. What's really interesting to me are some of the comments stating owners will SWITCH to another oil once they have cleaned-up their engines.

To what and why? That's the big question for me.

 

[Brian123]

Which Amsoil oil out performs SS in severe service?

AMSOIL Signature Series is a long drain oil, any of their other oil's will be fine for a 5000 Mile OCI!

 

[JTK]

I made it my go-to regular use oil for my vehicles a year or two ago. I'll probably run it until the next latest and greatest go-to comes along. It's about $10 more per 5qt jug than Supertech. If it goes up to $15-20 more it probably won't be my go to given the number of OC's I do with the 5-6 vehicles I maintain.

 

[GW.]

AMSOIL Signature Series is a long drain oil, any of their other oil's will be fine for a 5000 Mile OCI!

I’m testing at 5k. SS is also their highest performing oil in all categories, not just extended drains. This is my toy that gets abused hard. I want wear protection, deposit resistance, thermal breakdown protection, oxidation resistance, viscosity retention, etc. etc. Exactly what SS was made for.

 

[Brian123]

deposit resistance

I agree with everything you posted except deposit resistance with AMSOIL Signature Series, it is not happening, only Valvoline Restore and Protect can do that!

This is my toy that gets abused hard.

Valvoline Restore and Protect is not an oil for an engine that gets abused hard!

 

[Pablo]

I agree with everything you posted except deposit resistance with AMSOIL Signature Series, it is not happening, only Valvoline Restore and Protect can do that!

Hhahahaha that's pretty funny. Sure. Whatever.

 

[Brian123]

Hhahahaha that's pretty funny. Sure. Whatever.

It is true, realize something that when you use AMSOIL Signature Series or any other oil except Valvoline Restore and Protect deposits are forming. We now have an oil that can prevent these deposits from forming on the protect side and also clean deposits from the Restore side.

 

[Patman]

Nothing much to add to this discussion except I've read (On BITOG) many consider Valvoline Restore and Protect to be Valvoline's "best" oil. From that, I also remember awhile back when many considered MaxLife a great oil for it's attributes. I think Valvoline Restore and Protect is great choice for many that adhere to 5k (or less) OCI's. What's really interesting to me are some of the comments stating owners will SWITCH to another oil once they have cleaned-up their engines.

To what and why? That's the big question for me.

I’ve answered this question before but my reasoning is because I like to do 10k intervals in my Civic and I drive about 25k per year. I don’t feel comfortable running Valvoline Restore and Protect that long so I’m now using Mobil 1 ESP 0w-20. I would rather only have to do two oil changes per year as opposed to 5, as Valvoline Restore and Protect seems like an oil that might be best kept at 5k intervals

 

[Patman]

It is true, realize something that when you use AMSOIL Signature Series or any other oil except Valvoline Restore and Protect deposits are forming. We now have an oil that can prevent these deposits from forming on the protect side and also clean deposits from the Restore side.

I fully believe that AMSOIL Signature Series as well as HPLs offerings are fully capable of keeping an engine clean that is clean to begin with

 

[Pablo]

It is true, realize something that when you use AMSOIL Signature Series or any other oil except Valvoline Restore and Protect deposits are forming. We now have an oil that can prevent these deposits from forming on the protect side and also clean deposits from the Restore side.

You are just making it up as you go along. I am willing to admit and see Valvoline Restore and Protect cleans. But some oils are very capable of not leaving deposits in use.

 

[apollo18]

Nothing much to add to this discussion except I've read (On BITOG) many consider Valvoline Restore and Protect to be Valvoline's "best" oil. From that, I also remember awhile back when many considered MaxLife a great oil for it's attributes. I think Valvoline Restore and Protect is great choice for many that adhere to 5k (or less) OCI's. What's really interesting to me are some of the comments stating owners will SWITCH to another oil once they have cleaned-up their engines.

To what and why? That's the big question for me.

I totally agree. I should have stated that in my original post as well because what I meant to say was it should be a goto oil for any oil change. It shouldn’t be an oil for only first 4-5 OCI’s

It seems some people want to use it for 4 OCI and then switch back to there previous oil

But why ?!? I agree

Sure if your switching back to AMSOIL Signature Series or something super premium. But if said person is gonna be switching back to Castrol EDGE or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Mobil 1 then may as well run the Valvoline Restore and Protect indefinitely rather then only for 4 ocis because it does everything those other oils do and along with ACTUALLY clean!!

 

[Legs4Arms]

I totally agree. I should have stated that in my original post as well because what I meant to say was it should be a goto oil for any oil change. It shouldn’t be an oil for only first 4-5 OCI’s

It seems some people want to use it for 4 OCI and then switch back to there previous oil

But why ?!? I agree

Sure if your switching back to AMSOIL Signature Series or something super premium. But if said person is gonna be switching back to Castrol EDGE or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Mobil 1 then may as well run the Valvoline Restore and Protect indefinitely rather then only for 4 ocis because it does everything those other oils do and along with ACTUALLY clean!!

It's almost beginning to sound like you think Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Mobil 1 Euro do no cleaning at all

 

[The Critic]

You are just making it up as you go along. I am willing to admit and see Valvoline Restore and Protect cleans. But some oils are very capable of not leaving deposits in use.

Agreed. But if Valvoline Restore and Protect can deliver the same performance for 3-5K miles/6 month intervals and not jeopardize my OEM warranty, why should I spend 2.5-3x for AMSOIL Signature Series?

 

[JohnnyG]

I'm happy to hear it's working for you
As I said before, if Valvoline Restore and Protect is available to me for $60 per jug, and Mobil 1 0W-40 for $33, I'll run the higher HTHS euro oil every time.

I'm not thrifty either, none of my vehicles see more than 5,000kms per year so the oil that comes out of them once a year is barely discoloured. I'm just not willing to pay twice the price for cleaning when the oil I use is touted as one of the most detergent dense oils going, along with being one of the most robust.

I'm unhappy to here that it costs so much in Canada.

I'm in basically the same boat as you (except for the cost of course). My Mercedes, which no longer shoows up in my signature for some reason is a 2018 MY, and it just turned over 22000 mi. So 2750 mi/yr in it's life.

And ultimately, it's not the AMOUNT of detergency that is important in this discussion, but the "accidentally" discovered TYPE of detergent used in Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Most people would benefit from it's cleaning properties as the OP stated.