Why not Valvoline Restore and Protect for average Joe OCIs?

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

It sure sounds like some really good stuff. So far I do not recall many negative comments about it at all. Truly a surprise here.
This is of course BITOG. The BITOG that has some sponsors and many of the, IMHO very funny nicknames used on here. "Fan Boys" is one of my favorites that some toss at folks often in an attempt to bash what that person uses if it is not what the multitudes follow here like a cult. NOT aiming @ any certain person. It is simply what usually occurs with certain products.

So, all of the positive comments/threads etc... about Valvoline Restore and Protect have made me really sit up and take notice about the Valvoline Restore and Protect even though I have not convinced myself I have any need for it or any other cleaning products YET! I do value most of the opinions expressed here. Especially from many of the long time contributors. If things continue to be positive I certainly could end up trying it out at some point (down the roads...).

 

[Gillsy]

I thank the OP for putting "stoutiest" into my vocabulary.

Likewisiest!

 

[Gillsy]

You cannot know what your piston rings and grooves look like! The rest of your engine can be spotless.

THAT!

 

[ChrisD46]

A lot of people just don't seem to be able get past the idea that Valvoline Restore and Protect is a gimmick, and nothing but an engine cleaner for temporary use. It seems to me that you are correct, and for most people it would be a great full-time oil.

used oil analysis here prove Valvoline Restore and Protect puts up excellent wear numbers as well - so , Valvoline Restore and Protect equals cleaning + low wear.

 

[Nessism1]

Right, the crud is suspended in the oil that is being recirculated, loading the filter & lubricating with dirty oil. Dissolves? Into how small particles? The filter will not catch everything, especially sub 20 micron particles, & as it loads will slough off some already captured smaller particles. That carbon buildup is not just disappearing it is suspended so it can be removed by changing the oil. Valvoline had a more aggressive cleaning oil that cleaned amazingly, but people were leaving it in too long & plugging the filter up. This formulation is less aggressive to avoid that, but I would still want to get the crud that it did remove out ASAP

Your argument is good for older engines that are switched to Valvoline Restore and Protect. Valvoline says to run 4 oil changes cycles with it, to clean up the engine. Might be good to limit mileage to 5k or so during that time for the reasons you mention. That said, the original suggestion of this thread is to use Valvoline Restore and Protect forever, presumably from the start of an engines life. Doing that would be a preventative maintenance approach, and I doubt you would overload the filter or circulate tons of debris because there wouldn't be much.

 

[4wd]

Best part about Valvoline Restore and Protect is it’s there if you need it. Many will eventually come around if they keep their vehicles long enough. Especially ones running mediocre oils.

Why is it not in your Jeep ?

 

[thetricky]

You cannot know what your piston rings and grooves look like! The rest of your engine can be spotless.

Evidence on this site as well that the cleaning/keep clean ability of popular OTS oils other than Valvoline Restore and Protectis highly questionable.

 

[GW.]

Why is it not in your Jeep ?

AMSOIL Signature Series is in the Jeep. My goal is to keep things clean while in severe service on this vehicle.

 

[JohnnyG]

Sounds like it yes. Then again my engines aren't full of crud at the moment because I maintain them properly. If your car's engine is burning or puking oil, run it for 4 OCI's and hope for the best.

If your engine is running well without issues, there's better stuff out there IMO. Just me though. To each their own

Nope. My car has been "meticulously maintained" and with 20,000 miles on the clock, still showed particles of carbon in the oil filter after running Valvoline Restore and Protect. It also cleaned the top side a bit (it wasn't "dirty) and made the engine run quieter.
Valvoline Restore and Protect is a winner all the way around.

 

[Johnny248]

For my father inlaws 15 year old car with 100k miles and the engine is still clean as a watch on the inside, probably keep using motorcraft or whatever is cheap.
Valvoline Restore and Protect seems like it's more for people who fell victim to oem 7 to 10k oci and are now paying for it also those who have bought used but neglected vehicles.

Unless someone is tearing down their engine for maintenance inspection, there is no way to see what the rings and lands look like.

 

[JohnnyG]

Why not? Price. It's 2x as much as other oils. In a vehicle that uses no oil between changes, I'm not using it.

Actually, A northstar would be the perfect application for Valvoline Restore and Protect.

 

[CleanSump]

Right, the crud is suspended in the oil that is being recirculated, loading the filter & lubricating with dirty oil. Dissolves? Into how small particles? The filter will not catch everything, especially sub 20 micron particles, & as it loads will slough off some already captured smaller particles. That carbon buildup is not just disappearing it is suspended so it can be removed by changing the oil. Valvoline had a more aggressive cleaning oil that cleaned amazingly, but people were leaving it in too long & plugging the filter up. This formulation is less aggressive to avoid that, but I would still want to get the crud that it did remove out ASAP

Like any other quality synthetic put in a well maintained 40k mile car. LMAO.

 

[Brian123]

AMSOIL Signature Series is in the Jeep. My goal is to keep things clean while in severe service on this vehicle.

What will be your OCI's with AMSOIL Signature Series? Severe Service kind of points to 1 of Amsoil's other oils.

 

[pghvolvo]

My opinion for what its worth is if you have 75K or more miles on the motor, running Valvoline Restore and Protect for the four suggested oil changes per Valvoline might be a good idea. Even if the valve train area looks good, don't expect the piston ring and oil galleries to be just as clean. I've run Mobil 1 in my Volvo for years without any issues and decided to try Valvoline Restore and Protect. I was shocked that within 1000 miles the oil was black. I'll be using it for a while or until the oil stays somewhat clean. BTW the car gets a once a year oil change at 3500-4000 miles.

 

[buster]

This is the golden era for synthetics. When I first joined this site the off-shelf synthetics were pretty beat. Castrol Syntec, Valvoline and Pennzoil synthetics (did they even make one?) were pretty bad. Pennzoil Platinum didn't even pass the initial Honda Turbo spec. Now we're inundated with maybe too many choices. Fragmented niche market.

 

[garageman402]

Your argument is good for older engines that are switched to Valvoline Restore and Protect. Valvoline says to run 4 oil changes cycles with it, to clean up the engine. Might be good to limit mileage to 5k or so during that time for the reasons you mention. That said, the original suggestion of this thread is to use Valvoline Restore and Protect forever, presumably from the start of an engines life. Doing that would be a preventative maintenance approach, and I doubt you would overload the filter or circulate tons of debris because there wouldn't be much.

I was actually replying to this:

There's no need for a short OCI. You don't understand how Valvoline Restore and Protect dissolves and suspends.

The Hyundai has 40k & service at the dealer with free oil changes. The poster was going to start Valvoline Restore and Protect. I don't know how often it was serviced in 3years & 40k, but dealer oil is just enough to get you through the warranty IMO. I would think it was every 6 months. I suggested a short OCI for the first Valvoline Restore and Protect fill.

I didn't hit "reply" & couldn't insert the quote in an edit.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

A lot of people just don't seem to be able get past the idea that Valvoline Restore and Protect is a gimmick, and nothing but an engine cleaner for temporary use.

Except that it isn't.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I am going to let everyone else test it for a while before I make it my go to.

My experience in life is there are no free lunches. This would be my first if it holds.

 

[garageman402]

Like any other quality synthetic put in a well maintained 40k mile car. LMAO.

Are you sure the dealer used a quality synthetic? How many oil changes did she get from them? My sister in law's Ford dealer brought her in every 6 months for service, even with 200 miles........

 

[buster]

I'll stand by what I said from the beginning and that is it's the only oil that can clean piston rings back to OEM cleanliness. They proved it, using legitimate methods and beyond. But not the only good oil to use in every situation. Lot of good options depending on your needs.