At what OCI?But some oils are very capable of not leaving deposits in use.
At what OCI?But some oils are very capable of not leaving deposits in use.
Actually, Valvoline themselves (their engineers) say Valvoline Restore and Protect is their "best" premium gasoline engine oil meant to be used from the day your car is brand new off the showroom floor until the day you junk it. The ring deposit and varnish cleaning ability is just a side effect of using it. It cost a few dollars more for a 5-quart jug, I assume that is why most switch to a different oil after the Valvoline Restore and Protect did its magic.Nothing much to add to this discussion except I've read (On BITOG) many consider Valvoline Restore and Protect to be Valvoline's "best" oil. From that, I also remember awhile back when many considered MaxLife a great oil for it's attributes. I think Valvoline Restore and Protect is great choice for many that adhere to 5k (or less) OCI's. What's really interesting to me are some of the comments stating owners will SWITCH to another oil once they have cleaned-up their engines.
Valvoline Restore and Protect costs a couple dollars more for the 5-quart jug at Walmart than some other brand name oils. That is probably the reason.It seems some people want to use it for 4 OCI and then switch back to there previous oil
But why ?!? I agree
Haha! This a joke? I have personal experience with my Outback that points quite clearly to SS being a good cleaner.I agree with everything you posted except deposit resistance with AMSOIL Signature Series, it is not happening, only Valvoline Restore and Protect can do that!
Valvoline Restore and Protect is not an oil for an engine that gets abused hard!
Then you do not need Valvoline Restore and Protect! What were your OCI's?I have personal experience with my Outback that points quite clearly to SS being a good cleaner.
Yeah I was surprised how slowly and how thoroughly it works.There's no need for a short OCI. You don't understand how Valvoline Restore and Protect dissolves and suspends.
I’d hardly call a turbo boxer “not average”. Subaru has sold well over a million turbo boxers in North America, and with models like Legacy GT/XT, Outback GT/XT, Baja Turbo, Forester XT, and Ascent, Subaru has offered numerous “average Joe” vehicles with turbo boxers.I think consensus is in agreement with you on this one.
It is not a Euro oil, and some UOA shows considerable shear even without fuel dilution in WRX, but again, turbo boxer engine is not your average joe vehicle.
But also that being said, Supertech/Kirkland is not really that bad either. But if one is looking for something beyond that, yes, Valvoline Restore and Protect seems like a very good fit
I agree. Someone is trying it on here. Mine has gone to spend it's finals days in the junkyardActually, A northstar would be the perfect application for Valvoline Restore and Protect.
The post was a question and price is a legit answer. I am using it in 1 vehicle. So far no reduction in oil consumption. Just started change #2It's $30/5 quarts at my Walmart. Not 2x as much as other oils, other than maybe Kirkland oil that's on sale.
If you don't want to use it, don't.
I see what you are getting at, but consider that it’s an API approved oil. So, we know it has to meet existing API requirements for seal and elastomer compatibility. At a minimum, we can say there is no known issue with compatibility and I’m not sure there’s reason to worry at this point.So what process / chemistry in Valvoline Restore and Protect cleans?
And what does that process do to other surfaces - like seals, bearings, etc?
This we don't know yet. Like I said - free lunches.
you do have a point actually. Subaru cars are now everywhere, and they are i the attainable price point. So their engines are quite common onhe street.I’d hardly call a turbo boxer “not average”. Subaru has sold well over a million turbo boxers in North America, and with models like Legacy GT/XT, Outback GT/XT, Baja Turbo, Forester XT, and Ascent, Subaru has offered numerous “average Joe” vehicles with turbo boxers.
It actually doesn’t cost that much more up here when it’s on sale. Canadian Tire puts Valvoline Restore and Protect on sale about every 4-6 weeks for about $45 CDN, which is $32.43 US. And they have a great loyalty program that very often gives you a $4 to $8 credit (or more!) known as “CT money” when you spend $40 or more. They also often give a good amount of CT money when you buy gas at a Canadian Tire gas station. So if you have one of those loyalty cards (Triangle Points) it actually ends up being cheaper to buy oil in Canada than it is in the USA.I'm unhappy to here that it costs so much in Canada.
I'm in basically the same boat as you (except for the cost of course). My Mercedes, which no longer shoows up in my signature for some reason is a 2018 MY, and it just turned over 22000 mi. So 2750 mi/yr in it's life.
And ultimately, it's not the AMOUNT of detergency that is important in this discussion, but the "accidentally" discovered TYPE of detergent used in Valvoline Restore and Protect.
Most people would benefit from it's cleaning properties as the OP stated.
I didn't mention SS. You did. Yes it does run clean so only using it 3K would be wasting good oil. Thanks!Agreed. But if Valvoline Restore and Protect can deliver the same performance for 3-5K miles/6 month intervals and not jeopardize my OEM warranty, why should I spend 2.5-3x for AMSOIL Signature Series?
Point is, it does clean. 10k-ish OCIThen you do not need Valvoline Restore and Protect! What were your OCI's?
Is this with the Valvoline Restore and Protect and Valvoline Euro you were blending together, or are you now using straigth Valvoline Restore and Protect?Nope. My car has been "meticulously maintained" and with 20,000 miles on the clock, still showed particles of carbon in the oil filter after running Valvoline Restore and Protect. It also cleaned the top side a bit (it wasn't "dirty) and made the engine run quieter.
Valvoline Restore and Protect is a winner all the way around.
So what process / chemistry in Valvoline Restore and Protect cleans?
And what does that process do to other surfaces - like seals, bearings, etc?
This we don't know yet. Like I said - free lunches.
For the average driver doing normal oil changes...