why is mobil-1 put down so often?

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If you have an old-style manually adjusted tappet/valve train(as opposed to hydraulic valve lifters), you will find that it needs adjustment all the time if you use M*1. But if you use a good Dino, there is a good chance you will never have to adjust the thing for the whole time you own it.

That's a pretty HUGE statement to make...

Hopefully the suporting evidence will follow...
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Originally posted by turbochem:

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If you have an old-style manually adjusted tappet/valve train(as opposed to hydraulic valve lifters), you will find that it needs adjustment all the time if you use M*1. But if you use a good Dino, there is a good chance you will never have to adjust the thing for the whole time you own it.

That's a pretty HUGE statement to make...

Hopefully the suporting evidence will follow...
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I think the statment is pulling our legs a bit.. I'm 40 years old now and I've been using Mobil-1 almost my whole life in many different engines and I've never had any problems of any kind. I wore one engine out at 350k miles but that was to be expected......
 
The problem is that many people just don't want to read and learn or educate themselves about these ridiculous accusations about Mobil 1 causing leaks or Mobil 1 being too thin or Mobil 1 messing up hydrolic lifters. These are how rumors get started. Mobil 1 is not the best oil in the world. I don't know if there is ONE best oil out there. Amsoil makes a few, Redline makes quite a few
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, and I think Mobil makes a few. They all make some great and not so great blends. The whole issue of M1 being noisey is an old issue. It doesn't cause leaks and shows excellent wear. For $4qt, there is nothing better IMO. Schaeffer's you could say is, but I can't buy Schaeffer's anywhere on the retail level. I still stand by my point that for 3k mile drains,a dino is good enough.
 
By the q M1 is ~$4.50 the jugs of non-0w oils are $22 for 5q and go on sale for about $20.
 
Satterfi, they need to sell delvac1 at wallyworld/pepzones/napa/partsusa.........and in 1 quart bottles.
They also need to lover the cost of the motorcycle oils(mobil1 10w40crotchrocket and 20w50neanderthal oils).
I guess that we'll have to wait for the truck/suv/minivan/crossover/.... 5w40 Mobil1 when it comes out. Marketing at its best.
Some of valvoline or castrol's marketing dept must've gotten a new job at Mobil1.

To answer the original question of the thread, when your #1, you'll have friends and make enemies.

Pablo, there are numerous threads concerning noise, oil leaks, oil consumption, .....that were supposedly caused by Mobil1. Almost everyday another anti-mobil1 implication is made.

Too bad Mobil1 is more costly than before. QS full synth at the megalomart is cheaper. Even Torco SR1 pricing is pretty good. I have too pick up a paint viscosity drip cone at the paint store. I can't tell the difference between the Mobil1, Torco, & QS 5w30's vs the GC 0w30 thats hanging out in my freezer!
 
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Originally posted by satterfi:
I hate Mobil for not making Delvac 1 more readily available.
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All that might change if their new 5w40 Truck and SUV formula ends up being repackaged Delvac 1.

George, do you have any info on this new 5w40 for us, is it going to be Delvac 1 in a different bottle, or a completely new formulation? It seems redundant to make two different 5w40 synthetics, especially when Delvac 1 is such an awesome oil already.
 
FlimFlam I have never had a need to adjust my cam followers any more with M1 then Castrol 20W50 GTX. My Dads shim and bucket design went 120,000-150,000 before he had them adjusted! As far as wear goes I do not think it makes any difference synthetic or conventional with 3000 miles changes. THe problem is that most companys are recomendeding OCI between 7500 miles and 17,000 miles. Rest assured that Castrol 5W30 is not going to far to well over the course of 7500-17,000 miles with no top up, no filter change etc.....

Their is also more to engine hygine then wear metals!! Lets see a cheap 5W30 dino oil make it through two, three or four sequence III tests run back to back!
 
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Originally posted by TSoA:
and Mobil 1 15w-50 is such a HUGE part of Mobil's product line-up...
TSoA, it's funny you mention this about the 15w-50 weight oil. I believe it plays a larger part in total units of M1 sold than we might believe.

Browse the shelves at Wal-Mart and you'll find that the 5qt jugs only arrive in 3 flavors, 5w & 10w-30 and 15w-50. Where are the jugs of 0w-20 30 and 40? I'd like to try the 0w-40, but why pay full price of $4.79 when Amsoil's competing products are only $1 per quart higher?

The price breaks are had with the M1 jugs more often simply because they move off the shelf faster than the single quart bottles. When the price hits the magical $4/qt mark, people tend to be happier because the feel better about their purchase. Same goes for paying full price for Amsoil...

How many places sell OTC Amsoil compared to M1? Oil junkies like us seek out the Amsoil because we know it's good. M1 can be had at just about any Target/Kmart/WalMart. So it's the price point that matters too. M1 is a better deal compared to Amsoil when it's on sale, and not such a great deal when it's not.

Feeling better about the purchase is key to not "bashing" it....it's easy to "bash" a product when we pay full price for it and doesn't measure up to our expectations, but when we buy it at a reduced rate, we're less likely to complain.
 
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Originally posted by TSoA:
The 0w oils are more costly to manufacture. No jugs.

But don't they sell for the same price in the single bottles as the other viscosities down there?
 
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Originally posted by Grossomotto:
Only thing better is perhaps Mobil's own Delvac 1. But, even that is more than $5 a qt. Really, their slogan should be "Nothing beats Mobil 1.......for under $5 a quart."

Nice! You think it'd fit on the bottle;)
 
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Originally posted by Patman:

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Originally posted by satterfi:
I hate Mobil for not making Delvac 1 more readily available.
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All that might change if their new 5w40 Truck and SUV formula ends up being repackaged Delvac 1.

George, do you have any info on this new 5w40 for us, is it going to be Delvac 1 in a different bottle, or a completely new formulation? It seems redundant to make two different 5w40 synthetics, especially when Delvac 1 is such an awesome oil already.


Bumping this because I have the same question...
 
One clear idea I have come across numerous times on this forum is that there is no one oil that is best for every engine and use. That is one of the things I very much appreciate learning. From the knowledgable ones I have come to understand that no one PCMO is the 'best' for every application. While I have no doubt that M-1 is a fine product there are apparently some who don't find it best for their engine, use, driving habits, ect. When someone mentions another oil works better for them I don't take that as bashing M-1. Schaeffers is another excellent brand of oils. Yet, a user on this board who has tried a number of oils found it did not work best in his particular use (he can ID himself if he chooses to do so). He never bashed it, but stated it wasn't performing to his expectations and went on to GC 0W-30 for a trial. I'm sure the same can happen with M-1, as it can with any oil. Both are still excellent products. And, yes, there might be an occasional one that 'bashes' without reason, but that is easy to spot and disregard.
 
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