Who has the better group III base stock

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Okay guys. I'm going bonkers trying to choose a oil for my 2010 GTI 2.0T DI. I know it shouldn't be this difficult in picking an oil. I will be doing 6 month OCI's. I will only put on 4K to 5K every six months. I drive 90% city driving, only 4.2 miles to work. While I'm in warranty. I will be using a VW 502.00 spec 0w-40 or 5W-40 only. I don't want to run a 30 weight in this engine. I want to buy the oil locally, and not online with the super high shipping charges. After doing countless research on VW 502.00 spec oils. There seems to be nothing special about Euro made oils compared to North American oils. I guess people think since it's made in Europe, it has to be better! I will tell you this. I won't use Mobil 1 0W-40. I stopped using Mobil oils after they knowingly sent non spec API oils to the market after Katrina. Here are the oils I can buy locally, and the reason I won't use them. Lubro Moly 5W-40, $6.95 a liter, group III. Only meets BMW LL-98 and MB 229.3 Lubro Moly 0W-40, $8.95 a liter, group IV. It's only SJ rated, meets only BMW LL-98 and MB 229.3 Pento High Performance II 5W-40, $5.75 a liter, group III, It's a low SAP oil. Total Quartz Energy 5W-40, $7.15 a liter, group III. I'm still up in the air with this one. It meets the highest specs BMW LL-01 and MB 229.5. Motul X-cess 5W-40, $8.55 a liter, group IV. It only is SL rated, It only meets BMW LL-98 and MB 229.3. Eneos 5W-40, $9.05 a quart, group IV, I can't find a data sheet on this oil. Valvoline Synpower 5W-40 MST, $6.99 a quart, group III. It's a low SAP oil. Castrol Syntec 5W-40, $5.35 a quart, group III. It's only SL rated, and only meets BMW LL-98 and MB 229.3. Now the reason for my post. It has come down to two oils I will use. I can buy these two from the same oil distributor in town. They cost $4.81 a quart. They are both SM rated 5W-40. They have almost identical specs. They both meet SM, BMW LL-01 and MB 229.5, and Porsch A40. Chevron Supreme Synthetic 5W-40 Chevron Supreme Kendall GT-1 Synthetic 5W-40 Kendall GT-1 So out of these two oils, with almost identical specs. Who has the better group III base stock? Seeing that ConocoPhillips gets their group III from South Korea, and Chevron produces its group III in the US. Does one of the them have a small advantage over the other? Or should I just pick the bottle with the prettier label, seeing they are both have silver bottles. I will retire from starting threads for a while. Thanks guys.
 
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IMHO, when it comes to group II/II+/III base stocks, few do it as well as Chevron. Oronite (Chevron's in-house additive producer) usually comes up with very nice additive packages as well. Some reading: http://www.chevron.com/products/sitelets/baseoils/isodewax.aspx http://www.chevron.com/products/sitelets/baseoils/gf4.aspx http://www.chevron.com/products/sitelets/baseoils/faq_answers.aspx With that said, I'm sure both oils will serve you equally well, but I personally would lean towards the Chevron product.
 
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I believe the majority of Group III base stock is Korean in NA, and from what I read here it is excellent
 
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Originally Posted By: MegaCorp
I believe the majority of Group III base stock is Korean in NA, and from what I read here it is excellent
The majority of ConocoPhillips group III is from South Korea. Chevron and (I believe) Shell are US produced, by and large.
 
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After reading the datasheets, If ever there was a toss up, Id say this is a toss up! For no good reason other than long past experiencce, I prefer Chevron over CP. The ford guys will defend the CP, the Havoline DS fans will defend chevron. the US manufactired base stocks would be my political choice. Maybe picking the prettiest bottle is the way to go wink
 

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If you could get the chevron, I'd go that route. It is non existant around here... Otherwise i'd go lubromoly, good company and CEO.
 
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Originally Posted By: Finklejag
Chevron Supreme Synthetic 5W-40 Chevron Supreme
Is this a new oil? I haven't heard of it before. Looks good on paper. Do we have a VOA for it yet? Anyone know what the starting TBN is?
 
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A lot of companies changed their oil formulations right after Katrina. M1 was not alone, and this is not relevant , anyway. I recommend M1 0-40 for that car. It is very good.
 
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Finklejag
Chevron Supreme Synthetic 5W-40 Chevron Supreme
Is this a new oil? I haven't heard of it before. Looks good on paper. Do we have a VOA for it yet? Anyone know what the starting TBN is?
Found it: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post970470 I guess this stuff has been around for a while. I've never seen it though.
It's hard to find on the shelf (like most Chevron synthetics), but apparently Finklejag has a local distributor.
 
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Originally Posted By: artificialist
Because, as I remember the 2.0L Turbo engines don't take VW502, they take something else.
It does take VW 502.00 spec oil, and if it was my car, I'd be sure to run an oil that does carry this spec for the sake of preserving warranty. I can already picture a VW dealer refusing to clean his intake valve deposits because he can't prove that he used the required oil.
 
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