Which HM Oil would you use??

[chevman4life]

I've been using Valv Maxlife 10w40 in my 1982 Chevy C10 with almost 208k. With the new SN oil and Valvoline not using Moly, which HM oil would ya'll recommend for and old engine? Or what about using straight 30w? This truck had Pennzoil 30w most of it's life till about 8 years ago. I found a place that has tons of Havoline SM 30w.

 

[addyguy]

Valvoline Maxlife STILL has moly in, just a little less than before.

That said, I would definetly use the Havoline 30wt. you have found. Havoline is good stuff, and also has the moly you want!

 

[Mark72]

The new Mobil Super HM (I'm using now) intrigues me...because it is the only "resource conserving" HM. And it helps my fuel economony vs. hinders it.

 

[chevman4life]

Thats what I was thinking about the Havoline. I guess on the Maxlife you could ad Schaeffers 132. What about Quaker State HM, how is it and does it still have Slick 50?

 

[VR1]

Yea Mobil or Valvoline for sure Havoline isn't that bad either haven't used Havoline before but, have heard good things about it.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: addyguy
Valvoline Maxlife STILL has moly in, just a little less than before.

That said, I would definetly use the Havoline 30wt. you have found. Havoline is good stuff, and also has the moly you want!


Havoline SN has NO moly in it.

 

[VR1]

The QS high mileage I'm not so sure about because I know at one time they were using the Slick 50 additive with it for high mileage engines. I know when Shell bought out Pennzoil/QS the Slick 50 name came with QS and they have to somewhat make it there while but, I don't feel safe using it in something nice though.

 

[Mark72]

The new Mobil Super HM (I'm using now) intrigues me...because it is the only "resource conserving" HM. And it helps my fuel economony vs. hinders it.

 

[chevman4life]

The Havoline 30wt I found was SM rated, the store had several cases of it.

 

[4Kings]

I used Maxlife in my daughter's car for a couple of years then switched to Pennzoil HM and no longer need to add make up oil between OC's. Not sure what the difference is between the two but I like Pennzoil HM now.

 

[volk06]

If it is SM and a good price I'd buy some up for sure!

 

[taylo]

If you want to stick with Valvoline the Maxlife NextGen has moly in it. There is a VOA of the 5W30 on the site. I contacted Valvoline and they said it was a Group II/ Group III blend.

 

[mongo161]

You could also consider Castrol HM with part synthetic. Maybe someone knows if this contains Moly.

 

[kasedian]

 

[chevman4life]

Yeah Valv NextGen looks pretty good on the virgin VOA, I like that moly. Will probably try that next oil change.

 

[jorton]

Originally Posted By: Mark72
The new Mobil Super HM (I'm using now) intrigues me...because it is the only "resource conserving" HM. And it helps my fuel economony vs. hinders it.


I think resource conserving w30's shear to w20. Are you using 10w-40?

Walmart used to have a resource conserving Super Tech HM. I think it was 5w30.

 

[motorguy222]

While some may say that Super Tech isnt a good oil,others have used it and it has shown to be a really good oil.

I am now using their 10W-40 HM version and I like it.The HM version is made by Warren Performance and seems to be very close to their own Mag1 HM oil which is a synthetic blend.They are also SN and the 10w30 is Resource Conserving and GF-5.

The Super Tech has moly,it may not be what some may want but since moly has been dropped by some,this seems to be a good choice.

Here are the Super Tech PDS sheets from Warren for 10w30 and 10W-40.

10W-30
Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8714
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.88
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt 9.3 ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 69.53
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 137
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA 7000 6301
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.085
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 0.08 0.072
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.214
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.008
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA 0.5 0.357
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM
High Mileage 10w30 API Performance SN/GF-5
• High Mileage engines lose engine compression as rings wear, gaskets become brittle and valves do not seal tightly increasing oil consumption, reducing gas mileage and reducing overall engine performance.
• Super Tech High Mileage motor oil is formulated with a unique combination of premium base oils and an enhanced additive system
to provide increased protection in higher mileage engines
• Super Tech High Mileage motor oil helps restore seal condition to reduce oil consumption and increases protection against high
temperature deposits and ring sticking helping your engine stay cleaner longer
• Compatible with leading conventional and high mileage motor oils
• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH
and ILSAC GF-3 and GF-4.
10/1/2010

10W-40
Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8725
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.68
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt 12.5 ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 109.70
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 150
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA 7000 6757
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.085
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 NA 0.072
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.214
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.008
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA NA 0.341
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM
High Mileage 10W-40 API Performance SN
• High Mileage engines lose engine compression as rings wear, gaskets become brittle and valves do not seal tightly increasing oil consumption, reducing gas mileage and reducing overall engine performance.
• Super Tech High Mileage motor oil is formulated with a unique combination of premium base oils and an enhanced additive system to provide increased protection in higher mileage engines
• Super Tech High Mileage motor oil helps restore seal condition to reduce oil consumption and increases protection against high
temperature deposits and ring sticking helping your engine stay cleaner longer
• Compatible with leading conventional and high mileage motor oils
• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH.
1/25/2011