I agree. Going to be a while bc folks are determined they will not be caught with their pants down again. I am surprised that russia has not made up the shortage. Do they make .22's ?
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I agree. Going to be a while bc folks are determined they will not be caught with their pants down again. I am surprised that russia has not made up the shortage. Do they make .22's ?
Good place to see just how high people will bid for ammo. Some of the bids are pretty out there.
I would opine that with reloading supplies not being available, that you will see "sales" on reloading systems/tools in the near future. I would keep an eye out for them and would buy at that time. You may also see some "part-time" reloaders start to sell systems too. Dillon systems are arguably the "best" and with the lifetime "no-BS" warranty, they stand behind everything they sell. I have used Dillon since the late 90's and they are my "go-to" supplier for reloading systems.
It shows the more the merrier. Yes, there is a shortage and it sucks. My local gun ranges still have some to pick up at the store, though prices are higher.Good place to see just how high people will bid for ammo.
Some?? Thirty eights are literally a dollar a round. Wowsers
Is that in addition to the $1B mentioned in the OP?LE Vista is now $1B backordered.
Sorry, completely disagree with the conspiracy, deliberately shorting supply theory you espouse. The news articles and interviews don’t support it.well...a bunch of once independently owned & operated companies (firearm, ammunition, accessory, ammunition component, etc) have been bought out & combined under larger consortiums; these consortiums are run by power moguls who I suspect have temporarily reduced production to increase demand & pricing which increases profits; remember there is a mentality that no crisis should be wasted...there are people who find ways to build success when things go bad in the world (in the USA, the perfect storm developed...pandemic, political strife, social dishevel, increased violence, and a highly divided populace during an election cycle); my guess...ammo will trickle in for a few more months while our societal chaos continues...
Even then … it’s $15 million … our small town police/fire/EMS station cost that so nobody is going crazy when they know this will cool off …Sorry, completely disagree with the conspiracy, deliberately shorting supply theory you espouse. The news articles and interviews don’t support it.
This cycle has happened before. The big manufacturers are cranking out production at record rates, hiring temp workers and running 24/7 to meet demand, just as they did during the last crisis.
But they’re smart enough to know that this, too, will pass, so they haven’t made huge infrastructure investments, buying new machines, or building new plants. Fiocchi is the one exception, but their new plant was announced before this shortage.
I have all 4 of my .380 mags loaded with thisFrom some of the ballistics testing videos I've watched, XTP did well in .380 because it didn't expand too much, and still had decent penetration. Some hollowpoints in .380, in the videos I've watched, especially those that are designed to expand a lot, didn't meet FBI penetration goals.
In a typical self-defense situation, at 10-15 feet, as long as the attacker wasn't wearing heavy winter clothing, .380 hollowpoints would probably be fine, as long as they were placed accurately.
I think regular, non-jacketed, flat-point lead bullets would probably be ideal with .380.
Fire a “small” caliber gun indoors, in the dark, half asleep. After that tell me you want a larger caliber. It’s deafening and blinding. Smaller, easier to manage guns are often better, I believe. If you are a soldier at war it’s a different story.
Maybe by now? But no, there are so many "Where is the ammo?" threads I got confused. Apologies.LE Vista is now $1B backordered.
How is it different?Fire a “small” caliber gun indoors, in the dark, half asleep. After that tell me you want a larger caliber. It’s deafening and blinding. Smaller, easier to manage guns are often better, I believe. If you are a soldier at war it’s a different story.