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0w20 and 0w20 speced vehicles have proved themselves. I think it is time for the thickies here to start respecting it lol. I am the example that 0w16 should also be respected, 200k miles is no joke.
What's everyone's favorite 0w-20 these days?
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Nevertheless, an oil with a higher HT/HS always results in less wear. Whether it matters to anyone or if it is significant to them is another issue. An oil with a higher grade also helps to mitigate the detrimental effects of fuel dilution, which are not necessarily illustrated in a $35 UOA. Fuel dilution is always bad on multiple levels.
Unless a small improvement in fuel consumption is your one and only goal then there is no downside to using a higher grade. Sometimes people seem to think that thinner oils are somehow beneficial to the engine or "better", which isn't true. This is illustrated by the fact that design changes are made to keep -16 or -8 grades from causing unacceptable wear.
My Tiguan for example, is better off with a 504 00 approved oil than it is with a 508 00.
Unless a small improvement in fuel consumption is your one and only goal then there is no downside to using a higher grade. Sometimes people seem to think that thinner oils are somehow beneficial to the engine or "better", which isn't true. This is illustrated by the fact that design changes are made to keep -16 or -8 grades from causing unacceptable wear.
My Tiguan for example, is better off with a 504 00 approved oil than it is with a 508 00.
I say it's because of the OEM approvals. And the kv100 of amsoil 0w-16 SS is 0.1 cst thicker but the hths is 2.45 while ESP is at least 2.6 and that's the important metric.
I agree.
Euro 0w-40.
I say that because my Ranger's oil cap says 5w-20 but the previous 10+ years for the 3.0L it was 5w-30. So I went up a grade!
I say that because my Ranger's oil cap says 5w-20 but the previous 10+ years for the 3.0L it was 5w-30. So I went up a grade!
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Then go Red Line, 9.0 and 2.9, best of both worlds.
Why spend the money for Red Line if what you’re after is increased HT/HS? Just use a higher grade. ESP in a -30 grade for example.
Available at Walmart for $28 and a guaranteed 3.5 minimum HT/HS. Best of both worlds. Or a Euro -40 grade for the same price.
Available at Walmart for $28 and a guaranteed 3.5 minimum HT/HS. Best of both worlds. Or a Euro -40 grade for the same price.
It's still sold at Napa
200k should be just broken in. There's no acceptable reason for a well designed modern engine not to go 300k and more on cheap semi synthetic oil.
PUP 0W - 20 with a Fram Ultra and change when the OLM of my 2016 CRV reads 20 %, which is about 3,500 miles and about 10 months.
I know it's overkill, but I do use almost full throttle when fully warmed up and climbing long hills sometimes. It will give all of its 185 HP if asked, and does it very smoothly.
The 2.4 L in it, with the CVT in Sport mode, is a sleeper that many have no idea of how well it pulls.
PUP and fuel injectors that are kept extra clean by using the maintance dose of 4.45 mL of Red-Line SI - 1 per gallon before each fill and 3/4 of a bottle every 10 K miles, helps it stay running very well.
I know it's overkill, but I do use almost full throttle when fully warmed up and climbing long hills sometimes. It will give all of its 185 HP if asked, and does it very smoothly.
The 2.4 L in it, with the CVT in Sport mode, is a sleeper that many have no idea of how well it pulls.
PUP and fuel injectors that are kept extra clean by using the maintance dose of 4.45 mL of Red-Line SI - 1 per gallon before each fill and 3/4 of a bottle every 10 K miles, helps it stay running very well.
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I agree, but that's not their warranted performance. The owners hold the bag of risk beyond such.
Which is why 30 weight oil is still my choice
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You’d think this would be beyond obvious on BITOG …
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!Hey...that's JohnnyJohnson's line!the one that's on sale
A PHEV or any hybrid is a textbook case IMO of where the premium PPPCMO is worth it. The superior "cold flow" properties that help you at -50C also help you at +15C when constantly starting and stopping.
Instead of running a cheap 0w8 or 0w12, a premium 0w20 can give you superior protection with similar startup pressure response.
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Can you explain this a little more? For example what does a “similar startup pressure response mean”?
And also how does the “premium PPPCMO” help at +15C over another oil of the same grade?
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Anything VW508 approved
VRP
M1EP
Edge gold bottle
GTX
Kirkland
VRP
M1EP
Edge gold bottle
GTX
Kirkland
I see vehicles everyday all day with 200k plus running 20wt