What is the primary advantage of M1?

[tdi jerry]

I HAVE USED MOBIL 1 FOR ALL MOST TWENTY YEARS NOW AND I THINK IT DOES MORE THAN PUT MONIE IN THE STOCK HOLDERS POCKETS.YOU KNOW WE ALL BUY 20 TO 30 THOUSAND DOLLAR CARS AND TRUCKS AND SOME COST EVEN MORE.SO WHY ARE WE BEING SO TIGHT WITH OUR MONIE WHEN IT COMES TO OIL? IS 5 OR 6 DOLLARS REALY GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFERCE IN THE PRICE OF A OIL CHANGE.WE SPEND MORE THAN THAT A DAY ON COKES AND PEPSIS.

 

[John_E]

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Originally posted by tdi jerry:
...YOU KNOW WE ALL BUY 20 TO 30 THOUSAND DOLLAR CARS AND TRUCKS AND SOME COST EVEN MORE.SO WHY ARE WE BEING SO TIGHT WITH OUR MONIE WHEN IT COMES TO OIL? IS 5 OR 6 DOLLARS REALY GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFERCE IN THE PRICE OF A OIL CHANGE.WE SPEND MORE THAN THAT A DAY ON COKES AND PEPSIS.

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Thanks for putting everything back into perspective, Jerry. Even with a premium filter and synthetic oil on a tight OCI, oil changes are still one of the smallest and most cost-effective of car expenditures, particularly if DIY.

 

[Chevynut67]

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I'm curious, what kind of mileage is the GM Oil Life Monitor telling you to change the oil at?

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Well, I changed the factory fill around the 5500 mile mark

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I was wanting to do it by the OLM but, my wife unknowingly reset the OLM when it showed around 60% or so.

This time, I'm going to change it by the OLM & see. Right now it's at 58%

My main concern with this car at this point is that my wife uses it for alot of short trips, mostly five miles or less.

I do take it out on the highway at every opportunity to warm it up to operating temps though.

 

[tdi jerry]

AMEN
JOHN

JERRY

 

[DJ]

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Originally posted by tdi jerry:
I HAVE USED MOBIL 1 FOR ALL MOST TWENTY YEARS NOW AND I THINK IT DOES MORE THAN PUT MONIE IN THE STOCK HOLDERS POCKETS.YOU KNOW WE ALL BUY 20 TO 30 THOUSAND DOLLAR CARS AND TRUCKS AND SOME COST EVEN MORE.SO WHY ARE WE BEING SO TIGHT WITH OUR MONIE WHEN IT COMES TO OIL? IS 5 OR 6 DOLLARS REALY GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFERCE IN THE PRICE OF A OIL CHANGE.WE SPEND MORE THAN THAT A DAY ON COKES AND PEPSIS.

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There is more to it than "M1 is the best"

. Go back and read Roger's comments. Is is a good oil absolutely but IT IS NOT THE ONE AND ONLY WONDER PRODUCT MANY SEEM TO THINK. It may be best for one engine and only soso in the next. Oil changes are relatively cheap even using expensive oil but that does not mean that it is just best to go with the most expensive oil. The UOA section here has a wealth of info we should all use to help us zero in on what oil our engine and habits will like best.

 

[Mickey_M]

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Originally posted by Gene K:
The only problem that I have with M1 is the high iron numbers it spits out in many UOA. If I could just get an explanation for this that is something other than pure speculation I would feel more comfortable using it.

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I haven't noticed any particular trend of high iron with Mobil 1.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002123#000000

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002078#000000

I do see that if Mobil 1 is run after something else, some of the numbers go up as the Mobil 1 cleans up what's left behind.

 

[Mickey_M]

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DJ:
Is is a good oil absolutely but IT IS NOT THE ONE AND ONLY WONDER PRODUCT MANY SEEM TO THINK.

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I don't believe users or ExxonMobil claim is the one and only wonder product. It may be Amsoil or Red Line you're thinking of.

It is a very well-tested, certified, reasonably priced and extensive line of genuine synthetic lubricants made by an OEM from base stocks, blend stocks, and additives it makes itself.

It is factory fill on some of the most expensive high performance cars made.

 

[Steve S]

Why not do a couple of oil changes with Chevron Supreme or Castrol GTX then a couple of M1 Then compare the oil anaylsis, and make the big decision,of course posting the results.

 

[DJ]

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Originally posted by Mickey_M:

It is factory fill on some of the most expensive high performance cars made. [/QB]

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Which speaks to it being a good oil and WELL MARKETED. Obviously convinced you.

I look at this from the perspecive of driving a relative of one of those highend cars with a factoy fill of M1. I own 2 GM cars with LT1s much of the LT1 comunity thinks M1 5w30 is the be all end all of oil because it was the factory fill in the Vette which has the same engine for all practical purposes. Now that I have done some reading on this site I know that that is not the best oil for this motor at the very least it needs a different weight M1 like the 0w-40 or 5w-40, or even a step better yet GC 0w-30.
OEMs are not driven by absolute longevity too many accountants and politics getiing in the way of a job well done. Ford speced 23psi in truck tires because it was the right thing to do right? WRONG it made a truck ride like a car that is why they did it and that cushy ride sold them more vehicles.

 

[Mickey_M]

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Originally posted by DJ:
Which speaks to it being a good oil and WELL MARKETED. Obviously convinced you.

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Clearly you're unfamiliar with the OEM selection process and the vetting of materials and suppliers.

I'd read up on it a bit and ask a few folks in the business of designing and manufacturing cars before chalking it off to "marketing".

 

[kenw]

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Originally posted by Mickey_M:

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Originally posted by DJ:
Which speaks to it being a good oil and WELL MARKETED. Obviously convinced you.

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Clearly you're unfamiliar with the OEM selection process and the vetting of materials and suppliers.

I'd read up on it a bit and ask a few folks in the business of designing and manufacturing cars before chalking it off to "marketing".

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well, MY 25+ years in Design and Manufacturing says it IS marketing.....

and I am extrememly familiar with vendor selection: cost matters.

It's the same as product placement in movies and TV: show my product in your movie and I'll give you $$.

Use my oil in your car and I'll give you money (usually in the form of reduced cost).

any other questions?

 

[Mickey_M]

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Originally posted by kenw:
well, MY 25+ years in Design and Manufacturing says it IS marketing.....

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No, it does not .... unless that is in the Design and Manufacturing of automobiles, not ladies' undergarments, furniture, or some other non-technical field where the end product is low tech and basically a commodity.

 

[jthorner]

So Mickey_M, are you a professional automobile design, manufacturing or certification engineer ?

 

[Mickey_M]

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Originally posted by jthorner:
So Mickey_M, are you a professional automobile design, manufacturing or certification engineer

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Are you?

Is kenw?

DJ?

If not, why am I reading about "it IS marketing" from people who clearly have no idea why Mobil 1 was selected or how?

I certainly would love to hear from someone in one of the few companies qualified to bid as OEM suppliers - Chevron, Shell, BP, Coastal - what they offered in the way of product and pricing. I have a pretty good idea of the technical assistance, warranties, and so on ExxonMobil provides.

I have some idea of what Shell offered when they became a Ferrari OEM with their 0W-60 synthetic.

My experience was posted in an early post when I joined BITOG. Do a search and look it up.

Belittling Mobil 1 with a bad UOA is one thing, unsupported hoopla is another.

 

[Bio-T]

Many well educated and experienced people have posted in this topic. While we are all still friends, lets leave this one and enjoy the Holidays.

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