Mobil 1 Undeserved Bad Reputation?

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ChrisD46

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Full disclosure - while I use Mobil 1 oils , I don’t consider myself a fanboy as I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price . The above topic is targeting negative opinions of M1 oils based on VOA’s , what they read or saw in a video , etc. without understanding the following : 1) Oil testing facilities who use different testing methods versus the testing methods Mobil itself uses . 2) The number of negative comments regarding M1 oils from seeing VOA’s / UOA’s of key analysis indicators showing low amounts of additives when Mobil is using key additives that don’t even show up in VOA or UOA reports … I’m just suggesting to pay more attention to how your vehicle runs , how wear numbers look , etc. in a UOA versus the additives that show up as low in a VOA / UOA report . This applies to Pennzoil , Castrol and Valvoline equally as additive technology may possibly put pace the oil testers ability to properly test newer for more innovative additives coming from outside of the traditional oil industry.
 
ChrisD46 said:
Full disclosure - while I use Mobil One oils , I don’t consider myself a fanboy as I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price . The above topic is targeting negative opinions of M1 oils based on VOA’s , what they read or saw in a video , etc. without understanding the following : 1) Oil testing facilities who use different testing methods versus the testing methods Mobil itself uses . 2) The number of negative comments regarding M1 oils from seeing VOA’s / UOA’s of key analysis indicators showing low amounts of additives when Mobil is using key additives that don’t even show up in VOA or UOA reports … I’m just suggesting to pay more attention to how your vehicle runs , how wear numbers look , etc. in a UOA versus the additives that show up as low in a VOA / UOA report . This applies to Pennzoil , Castrol and Valvoline equally as additive technology may possibly put pace the oil testers ability to properly test newer for more innovative additives coming from outside of the traditional oil industry.
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How much in play here is a better base oil and low additives vs an okay base oil pumped up with a strong add package.
Low additives + good base oil = Mobil 1 ????
 
ChrisD46 said:
Full disclosure - while I use Mobil One oils , I don’t consider myself a fanboy as I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price . The above topic is targeting negative opinions of M1 oils based on VOA’s , what they read or saw in a video , etc. without understanding the following : 1) Oil testing facilities who use different testing methods versus the testing methods Mobil itself uses . 2) The number of negative comments regarding M1 oils from seeing VOA’s / UOA’s of key analysis indicators showing low amounts of additives when Mobil is using key additives that don’t even show up in VOA or UOA reports … I’m just suggesting to pay more attention to how your vehicle runs , how wear numbers look , etc. in a UOA versus the additives that show up as low in a VOA / UOA report . This applies to Pennzoil , Castrol and Valvoline equally as additive technology may possibly put pace the oil testers ability to properly test newer for more innovative additives coming from outside of the traditional oil industry.
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Can you point me to some recent VOA bashing?
How bout those old oil "high Iron" and noise complaints from the PAO days? I see you recently jumped on the M1 bandwagon. I don't think M1 has a bad rep, quite the opposite - it may be held up in such high esteem as the standard bearer a touchstone for a quality Motor oil. Marketing? Likely.
I don't know if you are really just looking for validation of your new oil choice through the thread responses.

I am somewhat reluctantly running M1 in my Ford, as our local Walmart hasn't been carrying my FL-910s Motorcraft Filter
and I thought I would try The Premium Guard (Carquest Blue) in an Advance AP oil and filter bundle to save some cost. I planned to run the vaunted ESP 0w/5w30 but I was informed that wasn't available in a bundle discount 'plain jane' M1 was - so I sadly went out the door with that. Still this Advance AP purchase cost me about 8 to 10 bucks over a Walmart in store purchase!

We will see how she "feels" and what the reported MPG LTA is compared to my recently favored Quaker state FS 10W30. I don't plan a UOA. just changed the oil September 30th.

-Arco
 
Would you like me to post a compilation of the numerous previous threads on this topic?

Oh and just to start all this off, a spectrographic analysis does not show additives. And the “numbers” are far more about your engine and your operating conditions. One doesn’t perform comparative quality terminations between oils using a $30 UOA or VOA.
 
I am not a qualified tribeologist, can only relate experience and UOA's I have had done. Started using Mobil1 in the 80's, used it exclusively since the mid 90's. Have used various weights 0W-20, 0W-30 and 5W-30, now standardized on 5W-30 EP. Used either M1 filters (when made by Champion) or Honda 15400-PLM-A02 (yes, I drive only Hondas) and never go over 5k OCI's. All I can say is I've never experienced an engine lubrication-related failure of any kind and no evidence of sludge even at 150k miles. My UOA's are excellent, always showing very low wear metals despite some oil dilution due to Hondas design issues. Other oils may show similar results with my level of pro-active Maintenance, but Mobil1 working for me.
Bottom line: If it's working well, stick with it.
 
ChrisD46 said:
Full disclosure - while I use Mobil One oils , I don’t consider myself a fanboy as I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price . The above topic is targeting negative opinions of M1 oils based on VOA’s , what they read or saw in a video , etc. without understanding the following : 1) Oil testing facilities who use different testing methods versus the testing methods Mobil itself uses . 2) The number of negative comments regarding M1 oils from seeing VOA’s / UOA’s of key analysis indicators showing low amounts of additives when Mobil is using key additives that don’t even show up in VOA or UOA reports … I’m just suggesting to pay more attention to how your vehicle runs , how wear numbers look , etc. in a UOA versus the additives that show up as low in a VOA / UOA report . This applies to Pennzoil , Castrol and Valvoline equally as additive technology may possibly put pace the oil testers ability to properly test newer for more innovative additives coming from outside of the traditional oil industry.
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If there was a negative opinion of Mobil 1, there would be evidence of that in terms of lower use than its peer products. The evidence does not support that premise:
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Mobil is the most widely used product on this forum, despite it not being a sponsor.

This information took me like 30 seconds to find, which leads me to believe this thread is nothing more than a fishing expedition.
 
ARCOgraphite said:
Easy now; I see you jumped right on the HPL bandwagon for your Honda bandaid. LOL.
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I'm talking about his enormous amount of threads he's started..........you're, for some reason, talking about the type of oil someone uses. You feeling okay? Having a stroke?
 
I want to hear more about this "... I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price."

How would this assessment be performed?

I know how I casually make mine - how would you do yours?

- Arco
 
ChrisD46 said:
Full disclosure - while I use Mobil One oils , I don’t consider myself a fanboy as I’ll use a better oil if I find it for a competitive price . The above topic is targeting negative opinions of M1 oils based on VOA’s , what they read or saw in a video , etc. without understanding the following : 1) Oil testing facilities who use different testing methods versus the testing methods Mobil itself uses . 2) The number of negative comments regarding M1 oils from seeing VOA’s / UOA’s of key analysis indicators showing low amounts of additives when Mobil is using key additives that don’t even show up in VOA or UOA reports … I’m just suggesting to pay more attention to how your vehicle runs , how wear numbers look , etc. in a UOA versus the additives that show up as low in a VOA / UOA report . This applies to Pennzoil , Castrol and Valvoline equally as additive technology may possibly put pace the oil testers ability to properly test newer for more innovative additives coming from outside of the traditional oil industry.
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Mobil 1 is considered Gold Standard pretty much everywhere in the world.
 
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