What brakes do you guys use?

Napa or Autozone pads/rotors.

For the reason stated above….easy to get, fix, and make a buck or too.

Most cars out there need nothing fancy.

Seeing you are from MI, they are more likely to get beat up by potholes (both) or rust (rotors)
 
AAP Carquest Platinum Ceramics. very low dust, zero noise and enough stopping power to kick ABS in if not careful. lifetime warranted through AAP so when the first set wears out the second is in the house.
 
Just a few friendly suggestions from a Shop owner and mechanic:

1. Lose the Raybestos Element 3's - they used to be my go to pads - loved them but now they are awful. Poor fitment and worst yet poor pad material. I have already seen failures on several cars I did in the past that I good will warrantied they were so bad - my personal vehicles as well experienced cracking pads, pad material coming loose, glazing and noise. I actually would not risk any Raybestos brake parts at this point. There have been several others discuss the lack of quality as well here on BITOG.

2. Get yourself a commercial account at Autozone and go ProVantage(or your choice but my opinion and experience proved AZ to be the best) and use their GOLD series brake parts. They run specials all the time where you can increase your profits. The run brake specials were you get 2 Gold rotors and Gold pads for $149 or less. That means you can make good money on the mark up. The best reason is the warranty they provide - any issues and they pay your labor.

3, Stop all mail order parts unless absolutely necessary. I mean this 100%. When you fix a car and have to warranty a part - you have to wait and go thru hassles on line and the customer is never happy about waiting. You get your parts local from AZ or where ever and you can replace that part same day and retain a customer.

With that all being said - I have been using AZ gold series pads and rotors and have been extremely happy and have zero comebacks....but still get haunted from the element 3's I did way before switching to AZ brakes in Jan of last year.
I appreciate your perspective from the trenches. Would going OEM not also be an option? It depends upon his client$, but good products typically, nothing extra/fancy, yet solid performers for most people especially rotors (most of the time). Downside would be less profit perhaps.
 
@AutoMechanic has spoken positively of the NAPA SilentGuard brake pads. I've noticed two or three sets he has shown pictures over the past year. Maybe he can post an update here when he gets a chance.
I am far from a pro but have a little experience with Silentguard pads, across several makes and models.

I recently replaced brakes on a Ford truck and a few other cars with NAPA Premium rotors and Silentguard pads. Fitment was perfect and they have been smooth and quiet, with pretty good stopping power. IMO they fit/perform much better than the Raybestos Element 3 pads/rotors I currently have on my personal vehicles.
 
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I thought I was alone in my experience with the Element 3 pads. They were pretty highly recommended, even around here, so I went with them on my Elantra last year. I didn’t even go 5k miles on them before I replaced them. I have PowerStop on them now and they’re a huge improvement.
 
@AutoMechanic has spoken positively of the NAPA SilentGuard brake pads. I've noticed two or three sets he has shown pictures over the past year. Maybe he can post an update here when he gets a chance.
Yes. I have had extremely good luck with the Napa SilentGuard pads. Just installed a set of them on my mom’s car two weeks ago and so far spectacular. Fitment is great. Comes with all the hardware too not just the clips which is a plus. Some OEM pads don’t come with hardware or clips which is not a good thing. These are the only pads I buy now if available. No noise complaints either.
 
I appreciate your perspective from the trenches. Would going OEM not also be an option? It depends upon his client$, but good products typically, nothing extra/fancy, yet solid performers for most people especially rotors (most of the time). Downside would be less profit perhaps.
OEM would be an option for sure - good point. You can also get accounts with dealerships as well and save money. I don't remember exactly but I think the average discount I get from my local dealers is but i do get a good amount off - usually will match an online price.
 
What type of noises are those of you experiencing with the element 3 pads?

I have them on my Elantra and they have been good, but now I have an odd quirky noise in the front, and I'm wondering if it's the E3 pads.
 
When we had a 2012 T&C, I switched to Duralast Cmax pads and Gold rotors. The brakes on the 2012 were undersized unless you had the upgrade brakes. That thing destroyed the OE brakes. The Duralast combo worked great and lasted much longer.

Now our 2017 Pacifica has MUCH better brakes than the 2012 T&C ever had. Not sure if they improved the situation by 2016 though.
 
I don't do brakes, it's just something I hate unreasonably. I use whatever my trusted mechanic puts on. The last time it was O'Reilly house brand rotors and pads on my son's Jeep.
 
Anything and everything. Raybestos, Centric, Wagner, Dynamic friction, powerstop.

Van currently has Element3s all the way around. Truck has a set of Dynamic Friction rotors and pads waiting to be put on.
 
I have had the best results with real OE pads.

The Toyota "value line" pads have been ok as well - I think they're just reboxed aftermarket Advics pads.....the same ones you find on Rockauto.

Akebono ProACT have been "ok," but usually poor pedal feel (material seems to have poor compressibility) and are sometimes very noisy when cold.

Akebono ASP pads tend to deliver the same performance and pedal feel as OE (sometimes better), but can be noisy.

I have limited experience with the rest since I don't use many other ones except for one-off situations.
 
What type of noises are those of you experiencing with the element 3 pads?

I have them on my Elantra and they have been good, but now I have an odd quirky noise in the front, and I'm wondering if it's the E3 pads.

1. When they were great, they would have a high squeal for the first application of the day, or while backing out of the garage, and then were quiet.

2. Sons 4Runner sounded like a school bus - not squealing but howling. Loudly.

3. Wife’s CRV was squealing front and rear, even after sanding both sides of the rotors to rough them up a little. This has always worked in the past as a last result effort, but not with the latest E3s. They were so bad as to squeal on acceleration for the first 30 yards or so after releasing the brakes.
 
1. When they were great, they would have a high squeal for the first application of the day, or while backing out of the garage, and then were quiet.

2. Sons 4Runner sounded like a school bus - not squealing but howling. Loudly.

3. Wife’s CRV was squealing front and rear, even after sanding both sides of the rotors to rough them up a little. This has always worked in the past as a last result effort, but not with the latest E3s. They were so bad as to squeal on acceleration for the first 30 yards or so after releasing the brakes.
Thanks, no squeeling with mine, on all four corners. I soft have a soft thump on left hand turns.
 
1. When they were great, they would have a high squeal for the first application of the day, or while backing out of the garage, and then were quiet.
This was my exact experience. It was so annoying.
 
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