Want to start right with new car maintenance....

[Scottydog]

One problem in using 15k oil changes is the warranty on a new car. If for whatever reason the engine craps out and the dealer asks for oil change records. They may say the customer did not follow the recommended OCI and the warranty is therefore void. Literature from Amsoil may not be much help. And changing AMsoil every 5k would definitely get expensive. The same could be said for M1.

In reality following any routine oil change schedule with a good oil and filter, the engine will last a lot longer than the rest of the car.

Just my opinion. YMMV

 

[ConfederateTyrant]

Warranty debate aside, I am not starting this type of debate, the article stated a couple of key things to remember. And that is the quotes from automotive corporations saying that the warranty cannot be voided because of the oil and length used. The only way it could void the warranty was if the oil itself was tested and proven to have failed. As the article also states, if a dealership dumps the oil without taking a sample, they no longer have any proof to hold against the oil and it's condition. Therefore, no proof that it was the oil's fault for the failure.

Back on topic...

 

[TimVipond]

Not to worry Scottydog.

New car warranties have never been voided using recommended Amsoil extended change intervals in 35 years.

As is stated in the Amsoil article and warranty laws, the dealer has to prove by chemical and parts analysis that the oil has failed. If it has (and Amsoil products haven't failed in 35 years in recommended applications) Amsoil would pay the claim. It doesn't matter what the dealer says, they have to show proof. Just ask your dealer or the vehicle manufacturer. If they say otherwise ask them to put it in writing on company letterhead and send to Amsoil. They will take care of it from there.

 

[Scottydog]

I have the same warranty issue with my 04 Corvette. It's written all over the manual that "use of oil that is not certified GM9418M standard" may void the engine warranty. I would consider Redline or Amsoil except for this. I run PP because it is 9418m certified and there would be no question of warranty claims. For many such as myself these concerns outweigh any possible advantage of a non-approved oil.

 

[globey]

I've got a 2.3L with 8K on the engine and I just ordered my case of Amsoil XL 5W-20. There is no EaO filter available for my vehicle, so I'll just run a Wix filter in it. I'm not worried about the warranty at all. As Tim has stated, no warranty has been voided in 35 years and if something did happen, Amsoil would take care of it. I'm currently running Synpower and when this run is up, the Amsoil goes in.

 

[TimVipond]

Scottydog - Could you double check "certified GM9418M standard" Amsoil lists "1. Oil must meet GM spec. 4718M. " for 2004 Corvettes. And lists these oils as meeting the 4718M spec. Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 XL Synthetic Motor Oil

I Googled GM9418M and "GM 9418M" and found nothing.

 

[tsmay51]

What happened? This thread seems to have turned into an amsoil debate... LOL

 

[Scottydog]

Sorry my dyslexia is acting up again.lol

4718m standard. Unfortunately while Amsoil states their oil meets this spec they have not obtained certification/registration from GM.

 

[TimVipond]

Amsoil doesn't believe in paying every company that comes out with their own spec, but does test it to be certain it meets and exceeds it. No one has disproved it. It meets the Corvette warranty requirements and has it's own Amsoil warranty.

 

[sky jumper]

to the OP - do yourself a favor and follow the maintenance schedule to a T, keeping all of your records. you don't want to end up like this guy...
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.php?p=5550961&postcount=172

his original thread...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=486215

 

[Scottydog]

Tim- At the risk of continuing to hijack this thread I will try to explain the reason that Patman, myself and others use M1, PP or other GM spec certified oils in their Corvettes.

If we use Amsoil and the LS1 engine dies for whatever reason consider this. The dealership may say I used non-spec oil, the warranty is void, my tough luck. I can get a lawyer and fight it, maybe win maybe lose. I can go to Amsoil but they may rightfully say the oil wasn't the cause of the failure.

Or I can use M1, Pennzoil Platinum, or several other certified oils and eliminate the possibility of this ever becoming an issue.

Most Corvette owners like myself have no overwhelming loyalty to Amsoil or any other company. Amsoil should understand this.

 

[TimVipond]

1. The Amsoil has the spec right on the bottle.
2. Amsoil has never voided a warranty for products/applications they recommend for 35 years.
3. Warranty laws specify that chemical analysis has to done to prove the fluid failed to void a warranty. Amsoil's never has.
4. I sell Amsoil to Corvette shops that carry no other oil.

Amsoil understands it is more important to make the best oil than to make the cheapest oil that barely meets spec and pay an auto manufacture to rubber stamp it. And to offer a much better warranty.