Wagon superiority thread

Greetings to the members of Longroof Society.

2010 Volvo XC70. 3.2L/AWD. One comfy family wagon that is. Best highway cruiser I ever had so far.
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Crossed 270k not too long ago. Still going strong. No measurable oil loss in 5k OCIs.
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Interior is ok for the age/mileage. Seats are grandma's couch level of comfort. Volvo did it right.
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And obligatory utility pic. Isn't this why we buy wagons anyways?
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I'm 6'2". I fit laying down, and my head isn't touching the front seats. Close, but not touching. If I move the front seats all the way forward, that will give me another foot of space easily.
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HankHill said:
I wanted to submit my pictures of my Buick Roadmaster, but I couldn't find them. Big couch with an LT1, all I wanted to say.
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I got a couple for sale in my area (Buick, Oldsmobile, and Chevy badges) and unfortunately they are not quite cheap and in need of something expensive. Or completely out of my price range. Drooling over your Roadmaster, sir. Don't sell it. Everyone who did regrets it.
 
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The Volvo is very cool, I have always liked that model. Don't see them as much as I used to. :( Or wagons at all for that matter, except Subaru and they don't count. ;)
 
Vladiator said:
I got a couple for sale in my area (Buick, Oldsmobile, and Chevy badges) and unfortunately they are cheap and in need of something expensive. Or completely out of my price range. Drooling over your Roadmaster, sir. Don't sell it. Everyone who did regrets it.
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Oh its long gone now.. And yes I regret selling it badly. It was comfortable and rode very smooth at highway speeds. Engine and drivetrain were well suited for highway speed and the mileage was about 24 mpg.

I did find one five years ago and I jumped at the chance to buy it for $4k, a very fair price for it. 1996 Roadmaster wagon white/wood stickers, dark blue interior, and less than 100k on it. Pictures were mint outside and in, engine bay was clean and aluminum was corrosion free. No rust visible on frame or undercarriage and I strongly suspected the car had never even been driven in the rain before.

I called the seller and was notified I missed it by less than a half hour, someone offered full price if they held it for Monday morning. I offered him $500 over the other buyer and said I could be there with cash in under two hours, and that I could drive it away that day with my own plate and a and valid insurance policy on the car if he shared the VIN number.
I could hear him thinking and he relented to wait for the other buyer first because he "made a deal" already. I argued that he was probably either not going to show, or would try and find problems with the car to avoid paying the full price promised. I offered him $5k for it, $1k greater than the other buyer. It didn't work and he promised me he'd call if the buyer didn't contact him by noon as promised or if he tried to pay less than promised amount. I kindly said that the price would be back at $4k if the other buyer backed out and he agreed with me about that.

The seller never contacted me about the car, and after a week or so I called him because I was curious how the transaction went with the buyer, if he tried to reduce price at all, etc. He said he wanted to call me and apologize to me for not selling me the car. The buyer was a sleazy used car dealer from NJ who tried insisting he accept a business check for payment. Only after consistent refusals and some time passed, the buyer produced exactly $4k cash out of his pocket and handed it over to be counted, grabbed the title off the table and tried taking the keys from him too.
The cash hadn't even been counted completely, and he got pissed. Counted cash again slower this time and handed him the keys and asked for the title back to fill out. Dealer kept title in hand and wouldn't let the seller have it, saying it was not required for a dealer and that he did not have the time to deal with him anymore. Walked out and drove the car up to trailer and had problems getting it onto the ramps. He absolutely floored the gas making smoke trying to get the car on. I guess he backed it up on and took right off.

Quite the story and I remember every single part of it. Getting screwed by a used car dealer without even spending money there! 😂 I'm actually mad again about missing that car...
 
Vladiator said:
Greetings to the members of Longroof Society.

2010 Volvo XC70. 3.2L/AWD. One comfy family wagon that is. Best highway cruiser I ever had so far.
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Crossed 270k not too long ago. Still going strong. No measurable oil loss in 5k OCIs.
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Interior is ok for the age/mileage. Seats are grandma's couch level of comfort. Volvo did it right.
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And obligatory utility pic. Isn't this why we buy wagons anyways?
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I'm 6'2". I fit laying down, and my head isn't touching the front seats. Close, but not touching. If I move the front seats all the way forward, that will give me another foot of space easily.
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I really, really like these… always wanted one but in good condition they $$$ here. How did Volvo reduce the front overhang in a fwd platform? Hard to find that. I’ve heard that the 3.2 can overpower the capability of the transmission in lead-footed drivers, and will otherwise soldier on forever if driven reasonably. Love your car!
 
Vladiator said:
Greetings to the members of Longroof Society.

2010 Volvo XC70. 3.2L/AWD. One comfy family wagon that is. Best highway cruiser I ever had so far.
View attachment 100976View attachment 100983View attachment 100984View attachment 100985
Crossed 270k not too long ago. Still going strong. No measurable oil loss in 5k OCIs.
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Interior is ok for the age/mileage. Seats are grandma's couch level of comfort. Volvo did it right.
View attachment 100979View attachment 100977View attachment 100978
And obligatory utility pic. Isn't this why we buy wagons anyways?
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I'm 6'2". I fit laying down, and my head isn't touching the front seats. Close, but not touching. If I move the front seats all the way forward, that will give me another foot of space easily.
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I have always thought that these Volvo wagons look great.
 
meep said:
I really, really like these… always wanted one but in good condition they $$$ here. How did Volvo reduce the front overhang in a fwd platform? Hard to find that. I’ve heard that the 3.2 can overpower the capability of the transmission in lead-footed drivers, and will otherwise soldier on forever if driven reasonably. Love your car!
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Not sure about the overhangs, but in all my softroading adventures I never scraped bumpers or beached it anywhere. Must be a combination of Volvo knowing what they're doing, and me knowing the limits of the platform. She's not a rock-crawler, but does just fine in sandy, slippery, or muddy conditions. I heard about the tranny too, but so far has been lucky. A fluid change here and there must be helping in that regard. And I believe in P3 platform it was mostly the 3.0L Turbo version (T6) that was chewing out transmissions like it's no one's business. Could be wrong, so don't quote me on that... Am extremely happy though with my slow, naturally aspirated 3.2L of grandma couch comfort.
 
HankHill said:
Oh its long gone now.. And yes I regret selling it badly. It was comfortable and rode very smooth at highway speeds. Engine and drivetrain were well suited for highway speed and the mileage was about 24 mpg.

I did find one five years ago and I jumped at the chance to buy it for $4k, a very fair price for it. 1996 Roadmaster wagon white/wood stickers, dark blue interior, and less than 100k on it. Pictures were mint outside and in, engine bay was clean and aluminum was corrosion free. No rust visible on frame or undercarriage and I strongly suspected the car had never even been driven in the rain before.

I called the seller and was notified I missed it by less than a half hour, someone offered full price if they held it for Monday morning. I offered him $500 over the other buyer and said I could be there with cash in under two hours, and that I could drive it away that day with my own plate and a and valid insurance policy on the car if he shared the VIN number.
I could hear him thinking and he relented to wait for the other buyer first because he "made a deal" already. I argued that he was probably either not going to show, or would try and find problems with the car to avoid paying the full price promised. I offered him $5k for it, $1k greater than the other buyer. It didn't work and he promised me he'd call if the buyer didn't contact him by noon as promised or if he tried to pay less than promised amount. I kindly said that the price would be back at $4k if the other buyer backed out and he agreed with me about that.

The seller never contacted me about the car, and after a week or so I called him because I was curious how the transaction went with the buyer, if he tried to reduce price at all, etc. He said he wanted to call me and apologize to me for not selling me the car. The buyer was a sleazy used car dealer from NJ who tried insisting he accept a business check for payment. Only after consistent refusals and some time passed, the buyer produced exactly $4k cash out of his pocket and handed it over to be counted, grabbed the title off the table and tried taking the keys from him too.
The cash hadn't even been counted completely, and he got pissed. Counted cash again slower this time and handed him the keys and asked for the title back to fill out. Dealer kept title in hand and wouldn't let the seller have it, saying it was not required for a dealer and that he did not have the time to deal with him anymore. Walked out and drove the car up to trailer and had problems getting it onto the ramps. He absolutely floored the gas making smoke trying to get the car on. I guess he backed it up on and took right off.

Quite the story and I remember every single part of it. Getting screwed by a used car dealer without even spending money there! 😂 I'm actually mad again about missing that car...
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So sorry about that loss... I can tell the owner was a nice guy who tried to treat others how he would want to be treated - with honesty, and honored his word too. He clearly tried to do the right thing, but wasn't strong enough to send that sleazy buyer home at first sign of trouble. It's always us, the nice guys, getting screwed over and taken advantage of, for simply trying to do the right thing.
 
Vladiator said:
So sorry about that loss... I can tell the owner was a nice guy who tried to treat others how he would want to be treated - with honesty, and honored his word too. He clearly tried to do the right thing, but wasn't strong enough to send that sleazy buyer home at first sign of trouble. It's always us, the nice guys, getting screwed over and taken advantage of, for simply trying to do the right thing.
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I can't blame the seller for not kicking out the buyer when the sleaze started.. I'd be too afraid of him damaging the house, property or car before leaving. Cops wouldn't be effective at all and I'd be stuck paying for the damages out of pocket to avoid an insurance claim.
The good guys getting taken advantage of has been a constant variable in life.
 
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