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Hello everyone just purchased a 2013 VW GTI with the TSI motor and really enjoy this car. I actually can say its one of the best cars I have owned thus far. The build quality and the overal practicality along with a shot of performance its just a great combo.
here is a photo for you guys and gals to tell me what you think
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd502/jeffs2006evoix/vwgti_zpse957df4f.jpg[/IMG]]2013 VW GTI
So let me get into why I am posting. I had very little knowledge about the 2.0T TSI motor in this GTI before buying it. I have been driving Lancer EvO's since 2003 so I am not new to turbo charged cars, but this car is just different than my 4G63's im used to.
I have found that this Direct Injection Motor in the VW may have its good and bad sides and I need help from folks here that may have some VW experience or just the 2.0T TSI experiene. I do know that the TSI is the updated version of the FSI. In 2008.5 they switched to the TSI. Now, the DI technology seemed like a beautiful thing, it cools the intake charge of the engine so compression ratios can be upped, and its more fuel efficent. The bad I have recently been reading is they tend to carbon up. Now how long until this actually occurs is pure speculation and is subjective since everyone drives and takes care of their cars differetnly. So now I am thinking, ok, how do I beat this from happening? The manual specs for "Top Tier" Gas and that is really a wash because most fuels these days, especially in California where I live are so full of Ethanol and other ingredients to make the cars produce less smog almost all gas in CA can be considered "Top Tier", but for sank of arguement I have been using Shell V Power, or Chevron, Texaco, 76, all of which are labelded "Top Tier" so that is a check.
VW has these 10,000 mile OCI's that I think are kinda optimistic for a turbo charged car. OEM fill is Syntec 5w40 and that is what the dealer I will be taking it to will use. I though, plan on changing the oil myself at 1500-2000 miles then will change it again at 5000 miles then every 5000 miles there after, having the dealer do every other oil change since its free. Since Carbon is a known cause of problems in DI motors, I was thinking that maybe PU 5w40 would be a better choice over the Syntec. My theory on this is also subjective because I have to assume that PU is as good as they say. I figure any oil that may clean any carbon in those cylinder walls would help the situation. Thoughts on that anyone?
Since the DI motor sprays into the side of the cylinder not from the tip like Port Fuel Injection, I am still concerned about carbon build up on the valves. Some folks have been using some kind of spray that goes in the intake and cleans the valves, but honestly I have never done that kind of thing. I am savy around cars, but I am not so willing to tinker on this motor as I was on my Evos in the past. The Evo was easy to work on, and was very forgiving. This thing?? I am scared to touch the dang thing. I will do the oil changes and air filters and such that is easy, but I really need some advice on how to keep the Carbon down on this thing. I can always resort to a "Italian Tune Up" but I am not even sure if that would help or not. I plan on joining a VW forum soon, but BITOG is so full of help for so many different things, I figured to start here first.
I will add too, that I am a big fan of this DSG transmission. Takes a little time to get used to, but its quick very quick shifting and suits this car perfectly. Its actually one reason why I chose this car over a WRX or a new Evo. The New EVO does have a MR Model with a Dual Clutch set up but it runs near $40K and that is just oo much, the WRX doesnt offer it, nor does the new Focus ST.
Anyway, any help woould be much appreciated. Thanks for your time in reading this. Kinda long I know. haha.
Jeff
here is a photo for you guys and gals to tell me what you think
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd502/jeffs2006evoix/vwgti_zpse957df4f.jpg[/IMG]]2013 VW GTI
So let me get into why I am posting. I had very little knowledge about the 2.0T TSI motor in this GTI before buying it. I have been driving Lancer EvO's since 2003 so I am not new to turbo charged cars, but this car is just different than my 4G63's im used to.
I have found that this Direct Injection Motor in the VW may have its good and bad sides and I need help from folks here that may have some VW experience or just the 2.0T TSI experiene. I do know that the TSI is the updated version of the FSI. In 2008.5 they switched to the TSI. Now, the DI technology seemed like a beautiful thing, it cools the intake charge of the engine so compression ratios can be upped, and its more fuel efficent. The bad I have recently been reading is they tend to carbon up. Now how long until this actually occurs is pure speculation and is subjective since everyone drives and takes care of their cars differetnly. So now I am thinking, ok, how do I beat this from happening? The manual specs for "Top Tier" Gas and that is really a wash because most fuels these days, especially in California where I live are so full of Ethanol and other ingredients to make the cars produce less smog almost all gas in CA can be considered "Top Tier", but for sank of arguement I have been using Shell V Power, or Chevron, Texaco, 76, all of which are labelded "Top Tier" so that is a check.
VW has these 10,000 mile OCI's that I think are kinda optimistic for a turbo charged car. OEM fill is Syntec 5w40 and that is what the dealer I will be taking it to will use. I though, plan on changing the oil myself at 1500-2000 miles then will change it again at 5000 miles then every 5000 miles there after, having the dealer do every other oil change since its free. Since Carbon is a known cause of problems in DI motors, I was thinking that maybe PU 5w40 would be a better choice over the Syntec. My theory on this is also subjective because I have to assume that PU is as good as they say. I figure any oil that may clean any carbon in those cylinder walls would help the situation. Thoughts on that anyone?
Since the DI motor sprays into the side of the cylinder not from the tip like Port Fuel Injection, I am still concerned about carbon build up on the valves. Some folks have been using some kind of spray that goes in the intake and cleans the valves, but honestly I have never done that kind of thing. I am savy around cars, but I am not so willing to tinker on this motor as I was on my Evos in the past. The Evo was easy to work on, and was very forgiving. This thing?? I am scared to touch the dang thing. I will do the oil changes and air filters and such that is easy, but I really need some advice on how to keep the Carbon down on this thing. I can always resort to a "Italian Tune Up" but I am not even sure if that would help or not. I plan on joining a VW forum soon, but BITOG is so full of help for so many different things, I figured to start here first.
I will add too, that I am a big fan of this DSG transmission. Takes a little time to get used to, but its quick very quick shifting and suits this car perfectly. Its actually one reason why I chose this car over a WRX or a new Evo. The New EVO does have a MR Model with a Dual Clutch set up but it runs near $40K and that is just oo much, the WRX doesnt offer it, nor does the new Focus ST.
Anyway, any help woould be much appreciated. Thanks for your time in reading this. Kinda long I know. haha.
Jeff
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