i cant stand it ANY more. a person on TV talking. but the voice and lips dont match. we can put men on the moon, we can put a machine on mars and send back pics of rocks. but we cant keep the voice and lips together on TV?
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Are you sure there isn't something wrong with your TV/Cable/Home Theatre wiring?
Are you watching a lot of programmes where lip syncing would be used...
Rampantly
Copiously
Frequently?
Are you watching a lot of programmes where lip syncing would be used...
Rampantly
Copiously
Frequently?
I work in TV engineering and it's an issue!
There are so many layers of processing where it can get messed up, it's not even funny. What's really irksome is when you get it close but can't figure out if the audio is early or late. For a while our network was off by 200 millliseconds and we could fix that at our encoder, but had to make "everything else" going through the building off by 200 seconds to match.
The Mpeg2 video stream has about 2/3 second delay anytime it does any reencoding, so they have to delay the audio in a computer buffer in the same gizmo.
Then add in "CALM Act compliance", an audio processing to make commercials less loud... which then ignores the video.
If you think it's "you", wait for a local commercial block. (You'll know 'em when you see 'em.) It'll be a mostly different processing chain. Also try watching some live newscast with talking heads; these are usually okay.
There are so many layers of processing where it can get messed up, it's not even funny. What's really irksome is when you get it close but can't figure out if the audio is early or late. For a while our network was off by 200 millliseconds and we could fix that at our encoder, but had to make "everything else" going through the building off by 200 seconds to match.
Then add in "CALM Act compliance", an audio processing to make commercials less loud... which then ignores the video.
If you think it's "you", wait for a local commercial block. (You'll know 'em when you see 'em.) It'll be a mostly different processing chain. Also try watching some live newscast with talking heads; these are usually okay.
I've notice that in the past few weeks.
Blasphemy!
If TV suddenly stopped tomorrow, sports fanatics and families with small children would go insane. The breakfast cereal industry would collapse, followed by the Direct Marketing industry.
If TV suddenly stopped tomorrow, sports fanatics and families with small children would go insane. The breakfast cereal industry would collapse, followed by the Direct Marketing industry.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
TLC is all shows like "What not to wear" , discovery channel doesn't have anything worth watching.
History channel is the WORST. I'm still not sure why they are still around. My guess is people that live in larger cities want to get an overly dramatic view of how people in the country, woods, etc "live" their lives?
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
TLC is all shows like "What not to wear" , discovery channel doesn't have anything worth watching.
History channel is the WORST. I'm still not sure why they are still around. My guess is people that live in larger cities want to get an overly dramatic view of how people in the country, woods, etc "live" their lives?
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
I'm not absolutely convinced that time spent on the internet is necessarily an "upgrade" from time spent watching the tube.
I'm kinda bummed. It's summertime here, so that means I'm down to just one channel. Can't get the local news until the leaves drop.
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
I'm not absolutely convinced that time spent on the internet is necessarily an "upgrade" from time spent watching the tube.
I'm kinda bummed. It's summertime here, so that means I'm down to just one channel. Can't get the local news until the leaves drop.
Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
Yeah, the Mermaids production on Discovery Channel was particularly educational the other day.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You could always turn the idiot box off and do something more constructive.
,
Unless you're watching "The Learning Channel," "The History Channel," "The Discovery Channel," or "Yo Gabba Gabba."
Yeah, the Mermaids production on Discovery Channel was particularly educational the other day.
Originally Posted By: morris
i cant stand it ANY more. a person on TV talking. but the voice and lips dont match. we can put men on the moon, we can put a machine on mars and send back pics of rocks. but we cant keep the voice and lips together on TV?
Does it happen on all programming and all channels or just some? If it's on all, and if you have a modern day receiver through which you pass the signal, you can usually configure audio delay/advance to correct the issue. But if it's only on some programming or some channels, then it'll be a PITA to correct on your end.
i cant stand it ANY more. a person on TV talking. but the voice and lips dont match. we can put men on the moon, we can put a machine on mars and send back pics of rocks. but we cant keep the voice and lips together on TV?
Does it happen on all programming and all channels or just some? If it's on all, and if you have a modern day receiver through which you pass the signal, you can usually configure audio delay/advance to correct the issue. But if it's only on some programming or some channels, then it'll be a PITA to correct on your end.
There should be setting on your TV and/or home theater system for adjusting the lip sync. I have been blessed that our sync is always perfect on everything but commercials. For some reason some commercials are slightly off but nothing else is. It probably has something to do with the increased audio gain that some commercials are piped with.
Who watches commercials? DVR the show and watch it 20-30 minutes after it starts and you can skip the commercials. Figure 1/3rd of the program is commercials and you are set.
i see it mostly on "news" feeds. TO:eljefino thanks for the info. a friend of mine did work in the control room, of a local channel. he had some story's. it IS a very hard job.
What I've noticed lately is horrible image smearing on PBS Masterpiece feeds. There are visible rings in the background, smearing about the head where the actors move their head, their lips...it leaves a ghost trail on my screen! And I receive the signal OTA (antenna)!
Masterpiece is one of their prime shows too.
Masterpiece is one of their prime shows too.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: Malo83
My 60" Sony would do that on occasion, clicking it off then back on would fix the problem
Sometimes changing the channel up and down fixes it too.
My next 60" TV will NOT be a Sony.
Originally Posted By: Malo83
My 60" Sony would do that on occasion, clicking it off then back on would fix the problem
Sometimes changing the channel up and down fixes it too.
My next 60" TV will NOT be a Sony.
Kestas
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I too notice the lack of sync sometimes. But not everyone notices, even when I point it out.
Before eljefino's post I always thought it was purposely a product of moviemaking, where you speed up the sound so it arrives to the listener in sync with the movie in a movie house.
Before eljefino's post I always thought it was purposely a product of moviemaking, where you speed up the sound so it arrives to the listener in sync with the movie in a movie house.
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