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No they didn't, the lab they pay for services did. Valvoline doesn't create or produce their own additives. They buy them and blend.
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^^^ Valvoline specified the oil formulation blend, for whatever reason. The blend wasn't some random concoction. Yes, it was a surprise to the testers that it cleaned already dirty engines. Who knows how the blend was tweaked after that discovery to maybe make it even clean better than first discovered.
Wow. I thought he had a new truck! How many miles does he have?
It's not like a billion dollar lubrication company with more than a few years in the business would randomly spend money on a new formulation without doing some due diligence on the prospective chemistry. They wouldn't gamble stock holder's money on a potential product change / reformulation that they hadn't done some heavy research on prior to approaching their scientists at their research lab ( in India, IIRC ) to proceed with their modeling of the " magic sauce ".
I'm running it in an engine that I was scraping sludge out of ...The marketing hype machine is working great this time around. Folks who have perfectly clean engines are buying it anyway.
Out of curiosity is it dissolving sludge as well as carbon? Or does the sludge just get treated like any other motor oil.
I do not have any knowledge of how much in house R&D valvoline does on additive packages. However one of my coworkers wives is a chemist. About 10 to 15 years ago she was working for Ashland in the lubricants division. We were talking at work one day and he was saying how his wife had been at work a bunch and was finishing up testing some new anti wear additives. Before that I hadnt realized she worked with lubricants. Later he told me she recieved a very large bonus for that project. I know she was pretty tite lipped about what exactly it was they were testing.
I later asked her at a work event if a regular uoa would show all the additives in an oil. She said that in a modern oil a bunch of things will not show up, at least with any test an average person could afford to run. She also told me that said additives would be easier to find if you knew what you were looking for and that some of the additives they were using were not something most people would expect to find in an oil. Not really sure what she meant by that, but that is what she said.
Take this for what it’s worth.
Bought wife 2019 Hyundai Sonata Limited (2.4L) a year ago with 23K mi on car. Put in
R&P 5/30 with Fram Endurance. Now have 35K mi on car with two OC/filter changes (same items). Had Zero oil consumption at both 6K OC.
No engine pics ..no pics of “crappy” Endurance cut open
… which I will continue to use along with R&P oil.
Bought wife 2019 Hyundai Sonata Limited (2.4L) a year ago with 23K mi on car. Put in
R&P 5/30 with Fram Endurance. Now have 35K mi on car with two OC/filter changes (same items). Had Zero oil consumption at both 6K OC.
No engine pics ..no pics of “crappy” Endurance cut open
… which I will continue to use along with R&P oil.
NO!!
It may have been tweeted to clean more slowly as to not clog anything up.
I have the same car but two years older and 57K miles on it . It uses about 1 qrt. of oil over 3K to 4K max OCI . While I have R&P 5W30 on deck , the vehicle saw shorter OCI’s using mostly M1 5W30 EP and then 0W30 ESP . I am fairly confident that sludge and varnish have been addressed well by M1 oils using good oil filters - but I could still have carbon build up in the rings . I will use R&P and monitor oil consumption . Hyundai / Kia engines need all the help they can get . A clean engine should last longer all things considered .Take this for what it’s worth.
Bought wife 2019 Hyundai Sonata Limited (2.4L) a year ago with 23K mi on car. Put in
R&P 5/30 with Fram Endurance. Now have 35K mi on car with two OC/filter changes (same items). Had Zero oil consumption at both 6K OC.
No engine pics ..no pics of “crappy” Endurance cut open
900 miles on 10W-40 VRP and the mild oil leak has become worse.
The leak was pretty bad on 5W-30 Castrol edge but improved on both Shell HX7 10W-40 and Castrol GTX 15W-40. VRP is leaking similar to the Castrol edge.
The leak was pretty bad on 5W-30 Castrol edge but improved on both Shell HX7 10W-40 and Castrol GTX 15W-40. VRP is leaking similar to the Castrol edge.
I’ve read that oil consumption has been a problem especially in 2011-2014 models, and even in some 2015- 2017 models.
The 2019 was the last year with this Theta Engine. Not sure if 2018-2019 have the same issues. I know some improvements were made in those model years.
GL!
I checked my Hyundai 2.4L oil level today and it was down almost a quart at 3,400 miles on the OCI . Interesting to note the majority of the oil usage on this engine occurs on the back half of the OCI and not the front half (definitely not linear on oil consumption) .
Ive found that to be the case in the majority of cars ive owned, Never the reverse.
Valvoline are you listening? Brew it in 5W40, I'll be in and I'm pretty sure so will a lot of other people.
MB 229.5 PLEASE!
I used to see the same consumption, back half of the OCI, on the 2.0 liter Hyundai engine that was in the 2018 Kia Soul that I owned.
Exactly! This thing seems to be more beneficial for the older cars with thicker oils more! So why not to make a 5 or 10w40?
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