Valvoline Restore & Protect

[ndarkside93]

Yeah I don't really think it's been tested for extended drains. I guess we will see as people like @53' Stude and others test it out.

Most people experience tbh drop and viscosity drop in the 5-6k range making it not suitable for much longer than that

 

[tired]

Most people experience tbh drop and viscosity drop in the 5-6k range making it not suitable for much longer than that

Yeah I'm just running 6 month intervals myself. It'll be much less than 5k for us.

 

[4WD]

Yeah I don't really think it's been tested for extended drains. I guess we will see as people like @53' Stude and others test it out.

And if your intent is to clean up CBU - seems 5K OCI’s would keep the active chemistry replenished …

 

[ndarkside93]

Yeah I'm just running 6 month intervals myself. It'll be much less than 5k for us.

In that range it should be fine. Had great luck with a 13 civic with 285k miles. Sadly got totaled not too long after I got it all fixed up again

 

[53' Stude]

You think VRP is good for 12,000 miles?

As said she may not even put that many miles on vehicle.

 

[ndarkside93]

As said she may not even put that many miles on vehicle.

Makes sense in that case for the annual uoa and see what it looks like.

 

[ltslimjim]

As said she may not even put that many miles on vehicle.

Are you aware if the engine consumes oil?

 

[53' Stude]

Are you aware if the engine consumes oil?

Doesn’t use a drop.

 

[ChrisD46]

Yeah I don't really think it's been tested for extended drains. I guess we will see as people like @53' Stude and others test it out.

For longer drain I’d be looking at M1 EP or the M2 Euro ESP oils . All my Hyundai / Kia engines are only good for about a 4K mile / 6 month OCI any way , so the VRP will be just fine . About the only oils I would consider running again after VRP engine cleaning would be M1 5W30 EP or the M1 0W30 ESP because they ran well in my engines and I know they are good oils .

 

[melk]

I’m coming due for first changes of VRP after approx 5k OCI on both my Northstar (148k) and Pentastar (175k). And soon the Ford 5.4-2v as well (183k) which is the only engine that burns any oil (quite a bit actually).

 

[CEHepp]

Is your on-screen oil level reading accurate? I discussed this with another member who said the gauge never reads truly full (99%) and doesn’t seem to change (at least on mine) even after 3,000 miles. I doubt I’m NOT burning oil.

Mine does not appear to be accurate. And not in a good way. The first time the message came on, I drained the oil into a measuring container and found a whole 4 quarts removed from the sump. The message said to add one quart. Obviously something was wrong because the capacity is about 6 quarts.

This vehicle came with an extended warranty and it is doing good things for me right now. I don’t have time to do the paperwork, legwork, and mechanical work to do the warranty repairs myself so I sent it to the local Volvo dealer.

I got word today that the warranty company has approved replacement of the pistons and rings in my engine as well as all associated parts used for the repair. Supposedly this all comes with a lifetime warranty from Volvo since it was done at a dealership. They’ve also provided me with a 2025 XC40 to drive while everything has been done. So far I’ve had their vehicle for three weeks! Who knows how long it’s going to take for them to do essentially an in vehicle bottom end rebuild.

I guess that means I won’t get to find out if VRP will fix an oil burning Volvo but I’d rather have the guarantee of updated pistons and rings than the hope that some oil will fix my issue.

That said, I’ve been so impressed with VRP in everything else that I will be running it in this vehicle for as long as it’s available. Just to keep everything clean.

 

[YZJB]

Considering trying this new oil out on my "fleet" (3 family cars, 2004 Toyota Kluger, 2004 Toyota Ist, 2008 Lexus IS350), I currently run them on Penrite HPR 5 5W-40 which is excellent, and I have another 15L in stock so won't need to buy oil for another year at least... but when I did the timing belt on the Kluger's 1MZ-FE it has varnish under the valve cover, so and the Lexus puffed a bit of smoke on startup after sitting for a week the other day, and the Ist sounds like it's pinging a bit when it lugs up hills sometimes... I guess new shiny things always want to be tried

can't decide on 5W-30 or 10W-40, but I'm leaning towards the 10W-40

Definitely the 10W-40 in those cars.

 

[Ic3y]

So my first OCI of 5000kms done in a period of just over 3 months in my Holden Calais L98 6.0L.

UOA before swapping to Valvoline R&P was Penrite HPR5.

Looking at the analysis all seems good until you get to TBN which is showing near end of life. Any ideas why? Is it because of all the crap the oil might of collected in its first use cycle?

Only thing I can think of is I did get the oil quite hot up to 135C with sustained higher RPM driving but that’s never effected any oil I’ve had in the past before

Cheers

 

[Gaspard]

View attachment 285795So my first OCI of 5000kms done in a period of just over 3 months in my Holden Calais L98 6.0L.

UOA before swapping to Valvoline R&P was Penrite HPR5.

Looking at the analysis all seems good until you get to TBN which is showing near end of life. Any ideas why? Is it because of all the crap the oil might of collected in its first use cycle?

Only thing I can think of is I did get the oil quite hot up to 135C with sustained higher RPM driving but that’s never effected any oil I’ve had in the past before

Cheers

thanks for this analysis, this is of interest to me as my normal oil is Penrite HPR 5.

It appears that the HPR 5 is better looking after longer but as you mentioned that might be due to the cleaning action...

did you have any oil consumption on that Holden ?

 

[4WD]

Checking Walmart yesterday - every Valvoline in stock but R&P?

 

[Jetronic]

View attachment 285795So my first OCI of 5000kms done in a period of just over 3 months in my Holden Calais L98 6.0L.

UOA before swapping to Valvoline R&P was Penrite HPR5.

Looking at the analysis all seems good until you get to TBN which is showing near end of life. Any ideas why? Is it because of all the crap the oil might of collected in its first use cycle?

Only thing I can think of is I did get the oil quite hot up to 135C with sustained higher RPM driving but that’s never effected any oil I’ve had in the past before

Cheers

less calcium, less magnesium, less zddp. the first 2 are directly responsible for the tbn, and zddp acts as an anti-oxidant which helps in tbn retention. no surprise the tbn is lower (and was lower to start with).

 

[YZJB]

HPR5 has a really high starting TBN. But I wouldn’t stress about R&P having a lower TBN – look how good those wear numbers are!

 

[Ic3y]

thanks for this analysis, this is of interest to me as my normal oil is Penrite HPR 5.

It appears that the HPR 5 is better looking after longer but as you mentioned that might be due to the cleaning action...

did you have any oil consumption on that Holden ?

No oil consumption on the Holden at all before or after. Does have almost 280,000kms on the clock.

Will be dropping the Penrite Racing ten 10ths out of my Holden SS LS1 and analysing that before adding VR&P. Should be interesting.

less calcium, less magnesium, less zddp. the first 2 are directly responsible for the tbn, and zddp acts as an anti-oxidant which helps in tbn retention. no surprise the tbn is lower (and was lower to start with).

Any idea what the starting TBN is on VR&P?

Cheers

 

[53' Stude]

Checking Walmart yesterday - every Valvoline in stock but R&P?

View attachment 285845

So sad

 

[4WD]

So sad

I also noticed they took the promotional signs down in the service area.
(Can’t sell what you don’t have) …