Valvoline Restore & Protect

[goblin]

I'm surprised that somebody or some competitor hasn't 'reverse engineered' VRP to find out what the magical cleaner is...

Reverse-engineering is of little use if the thing is patent-walled layers and layers deep.

Most likely this is a third party formula, for which Valvoline paid, and which it has locked for a given amount of years.

 

[OVERKILL]

Reverse-engineering is of little use if the thing is patent-walled layers and layers deep.

Most likely this is a third party formula, for which Valvoline paid, and which it has locked for a given amount of years.

From what I recall, it was discovered entirely by accident. And the additive package is provided by Lubrizol.

 

[Cmobile]

Reverse-engineering is of little use if the thing is patent-walled layers and layers deep.

True,
But hopefully is prompts R&D from other companies to create something similar.

Removal of deposits/carbon/varnish benefits ICE's.

Maybe we'll see a Euro spec/3.5 HTHS comparable oil soon.

 

[BornSlippy]

Just put in VRP in a new to us 2019 Ford Escape 2.5L. Only 43K KM on and it had regular changes at a Ford dealer. Since VRP just became available in Canada I had to have the new shiny.

 

[Jetronic]

Reverse-engineering is of little use if the thing is patent-walled layers and layers deep.

Most likely this is a third party formula, for which Valvoline paid, and which it has locked for a given amount of years.

No need to reverse engineer if it's patented, it's there for all to read. Do a similar thing, just different enough that it doesn't violate the patent and bob's your uncle.

If it's not possible to reverse engineer, you're better off with a trade secret.

 

[scoot]

Reverse-engineering is of little use if the thing is patent-walled layers and layers deep.

Most likely this is a third party formula, for which Valvoline paid, and which it has locked for a given amount of years.

Valvoline came up with it themselves

 

[Matt_V]

Close to 3,000 miles on first OCI on my 2016 Volvo XC90 T6. I just had a thought, since this engine is known for piston ring buildup issues, should I be worried about fouling my spark plugs earlier than normal when using this oil? I did a tune-up with new coils & plugs when I did the oil change.

 

[YZJB]

Close to 3,000 miles on first OCI on my 2016 Volvo XC90 T6. I just had a thought, since this engine is known for piston ring buildup issues, should I be worried about fouling my spark plugs earlier than normal when using this oil? I did a tune-up with new coils & plugs when I did the oil change.

No

 

[Matt_V]

So here’s where I am in my current journey with VRP: I’m an idiot and bought a car with a bad piston ring design. Avoid the 2016 XC90 if you’re looking. They fixed the oil control rings in 2017. I thought I was doing okay at first but it’s actually burning 1 quart every 1000 miles. I changed to VRP 2000 miles ago and have already killed two quarts of the stuff.

I have a small powertrain warranty that I’m going to see if they’ll pay for replacement of my pistons and rings before it runs out. I won’t be surprised if they find a way to refuse it but hopefully VRP will help.

The odd thing I noticed is that the engine burned the first quart in almost exactly 1000 miles. The next quart was slightly quicker around 800 miles. This time around my oil level indicator seems to be dropping even quicker! I’ve read people saying it gets worse before it gets better with this oil. Hopefully that’s the case for me
If this warranty company finds a way to get out of replacing these rings.

Since I’m not doing the ring job (I don’t have time and the warranty will pay for a loaner vehicle from the dealership), I’m going to have the local Volvo dealer do the replacement for me. I’m going to ask to keep the pistons so I can inspect the ring packs. I know it will be hard to see changes since we don’t have a baseline on ring condition but maybe we will see something interesting with it.

Is your on-screen oil level reading accurate? I discussed this with another member who said the gauge never reads truly full (99%) and doesn’t seem to change (at least on mine) even after 3,000 miles. I doubt I’m NOT burning oil.

 

[Gaspard]

Considering trying this new oil out on my "fleet" (3 family cars, 2004 Toyota Kluger, 2004 Toyota Ist, 2008 Lexus IS350), I currently run them on Penrite HPR 5 5W-40 which is excellent, and I have another 15L in stock so won't need to buy oil for another year at least... but when I did the timing belt on the Kluger's 1MZ-FE it has varnish under the valve cover, so and the Lexus puffed a bit of smoke on startup after sitting for a week the other day, and the Ist sounds like it's pinging a bit when it lugs up hills sometimes... I guess new shiny things always want to be tried

can't decide on 5W-30 or 10W-40, but I'm leaning towards the 10W-40

 

[perkz]

I am on my 3rd round of R&P on a Kia v-6 with 85,000 miles. I have no visable oil usage at all between 3-4k mile oil changes, so running this a precaution. However, R&P was tested for this, which is the main reason we think it is special. I wonder if some of the others, like Pennzoil UP or a Valvoline Euro, if tested like R&P, they wouldn't produce the same piston cleaning results?

 

[ChrisD46]

I am on my 3rd round of R&P on a Kia v-6 with 85,000 miles. I have no visable oil usage at all between 3-4k mile oil changes, so running this a precaution. However, R&P was tested for this, which is the main reason we think it is special. I wonder if some of the others, like Pennzoil UP or a Valvoline Euro, if tested like R&P, they wouldn't produce the same piston cleaning results?

I don’t think these other oils can address carbon cleaning like R&P does . I will also add that R&P runs smooth in my Kia 2.0L and UOA’s from others show very good wear protection .

 

[53' Stude]

Just put last jug of it I had in friends 2011 Chrysler Sebring. She doesn’t put kore than 12k on car a year. Used CarQuest premium filter.

 

[tired]

Just put last jug of it I had in friends 2011 Chrysler Sebring. She doesn’t put kore than 12k on car a year. Used CarQuest premium filter.

How long are you going to run it in her car?

 

[53' Stude]

1 year then I’ll do UOA. I’ll just pull sample via dipstick tube. After I see UOA a result we will decide. I hate wasting oil.

 

[tired]

1 year then I’ll do UOA. I’ll just pull sample via dipstick tube. After I see UOA a result we will decide. I hate wasting oil.

You think VRP is good for 12,000 miles?

 

[ltslimjim]

You think VRP is good for 12,000 miles?

Yeah, that could be a net negative; depending on if cleaning would be occurring. Valvoline isn’t necessarily formulated for extended intervals; as they do not market their oils that way. If cleaning is going on, what’s the purpose of keeping the crud circulation?

 

[VersysVsWhat]

I don’t think these other oils can address carbon cleaning like R&P does . I will also add that R&P runs smooth in my Kia 2.0L and UOA’s from others show very good wear protection .

Agree with you. Just wanted to add a data point-I ran Kirkland 5w-30+HPL EC for about 1650 mi, and I was low key shocked at how dark and almost syrupy looking the oil was after that little mileage (I did not break open the filter, seemed kind of redundant/pointless). I bought the car used and high mileage. Have no idea how it was treated before I got it, but figured since it has the known to be an unusually reliable and take plenty of abuse and keep on ticking, non hybrid 1NZ-FE engine, I figured it was a pretty good gamble at $2k. 35k+ miles later and so far, so good.

So while I like, will, and have used VRP, there are also other good cleaners out there. I'm probably going to try the Rislone product at some point as well, as more of a maintenance option (the one with TMP ester). It's hard to beat Kirkland on sale for synthetic oil, and its generally good enough for my car and applications.

 

[tired]

Yeah, that could be a net negative; depending on if cleaning would be occurring. Valvoline isn’t necessarily formulated for extended intervals; as they do not market their oils that way. If cleaning is going on, what’s the purpose of keeping the crud circulation?

Yeah I don't really think it's been tested for extended drains. I guess we will see as people like @53' Stude and others test it out.

 

[tired]

I am on my 3rd round of R&P on a Kia v-6 with 85,000 miles. I have no visable oil usage at all between 3-4k mile oil changes, so running this a precaution. However, R&P was tested for this, which is the main reason we think it is special. I wonder if some of the others, like Pennzoil UP or a Valvoline Euro, if tested like R&P, they wouldn't produce the same piston cleaning results?

This is a very revolutionary product. Valvoline has said it is the most important development in their company's history. No one has shown results with any product like what they have with this, on piston ring deposits.