Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 (Gonna Take a Chance)

[BrendanC]

Valvoline probably buys the base oils from Mobil 1, wasn't Mobil 1 the first to claim their oils clean the engine.. Just asking a question?

base oils maybe, add pack is determine by valvoline.

 

[4WD]

Arrived - with oil filter bundle - did not need an oil filter but they cut my air filter price by that amount …

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The deal options 5 singles - so I went back to facilitate an 8 quart engine change … and a filter …

 

[OVERKILL]

base oils maybe, add pack is determine by valvoline.

Additive package will come from one of the majors, likely to Valvoline's specs (not a generic one) from Infineum, Afton, Lubrizol...etc.

 

[Danh]

Interesting this arrived shortly after Valvoline’s acquisition by Aramco. Maybe it has a secret sauce…

 

[4WD]

Interesting this arrived shortly after Valvoline’s acquisition by Aramco. Maybe it has a secret sauce…

Been wondering if the R&D folks got new cash - have not found intel …

 

[Sandstorm]

Been wondering if the R&D folks got new cash - have not found intel …

The Saudi prince paid nearly half a billion in cash for Da Vinci's painting Salvator Mundi. Money is not an issue...

 

[4WD]

The Saudi prince paid nearly half a billion in cash for Da Vinci's painting Salvator Mundi. Money is not an issue...

Yep - saw his yacht parked in Limassol …

 

[Scott S]

I'm curious with that VOA looks like compared to Advanced..

 

[Scott S]

Interesting this arrived shortly after Valvoline’s acquisition by Aramco. Maybe it has a secret sauce…

Prior to that it was just synpower and Max life synthetic..

 

[Sandstorm]

I'm curious with that VOA looks like compared to Advanced..

The interesting parameter to look at would be the oxidation level. Other than that I don't think the traditional $30 VOA approach will reveal much but we'll see ...

 

[Scott S]

The interesting parameter to look at would be the oxidation level. Other than that I don't think the traditional $30 VOA approach will reveal much but we'll see ...

True, what does mobil 1 show in the way of oxidation, and that's supposed to clean as well?

 

[michaelluscher]

Is this like a rebranded gasoline cousin to the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore that was co developed with Cummins?

"This oil was co-developed by Valvoline and Cummins to clean the piston rings on ISX15 engines that were experiencing oil consumption. Supposedly this oil contains a significant percentage of a high-solvency Group V ester basestock"

I wonder

 

[buster]

The interesting parameter to look at would be the oxidation level. Other than that I don't think the traditional $30 VOA approach will reveal much but we'll see ...

Agree, but that's also assuming they're using some ester to clean. It could be something new.

 

[buster]

Is this like a rebranded gasoline cousin to the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore that was co developed with Cummins?

"This oil was co-developed by Valvoline and Cummins to clean the piston rings on ISX15 engines that were experiencing oil consumption. Supposedly this oil contains a significant percentage of a high-solvency Group V ester basestock"

I wonder
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No, apparently, it's nothing like it. PBR though did use Group V (ester) for the cleaning.

 

[KCJeep]

I see R&P gives 8x wear protection whereas Extended Protection gave 10x. Everything comes at a cost I guess.

I have no idea what any of that means other than marketing but Valvoline is not the only one using that lingo, Castrol does too.

 

[Jetronic]

True, what does mobil 1 show in the way of oxidation, and that's supposed to clean as well?

mobil 1 fs 0w-40 shows about 35, the rest is signifiucantly lower AFAIK

 

[KCJeep]

Been checking Wally’s site, not there yet but I can still get Extended Protection for now.

 

[Scott S]

Been checking Wally’s site, not there yet but I can still get Extended Protection for now.

Now advanced, is actually better am I correct then extended protection?

 

[KCJeep]

Now advanced, is actually better am I correct then extended protection?

No, Extended has been their premium product although speculation is that R&P is bumping it.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

Don't be condescending, you don't know me.

I've already commented about ring cleaning and/or stuck rings earlier in this thread or the other Valvoline R&P thread. Try harder. Regardless of what oil is being used, it would get ingested under vacuum if the rings are stuck from carbon. Your comment suggested people would have to check because they were using restore, rather than it being a normal practice for an oil burner.

Your post also sounded like a conspiracy theory that Valvoline is trying to dupe people. They used a sequence test and the piston photos are the actual results of testing. Some base oils are known to clean carbon (ANs, certain esters), and Valvoline has patents on carbon cleaning oil formulas. They have the knowledge (premium blue restore, patents, formula 1) to formulate a complete, high performing oil that prevents and even cleans deposits.

No reason to doubt the claims of carbon removal in 4 service intervals

Valvoline is off the shelf additives blended into purchased base oils. They do not innovate in-house. They have a massive advertising budget but they are not some cutting edge formulators themselves.