Ok I thought it was the advanced that had higher zinc levels. Advanced must be the old synpower.
Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 (Gonna Take a Chance)
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Add packs between the two are virtually identical, difference “should be” in the base oil compositions.
I’ve not seen extensive analysis of the Valvoline, but there was one recently on Pennzoil Ultra versus Platinum. Add packs are virtual ringers between the two but there were significant differences in base oil compositions.
Unless Valvoline is flat lying Extended should be superior, according to their marketing claims and pricing structure.
I’ve not seen extensive analysis of the Valvoline, but there was one recently on Pennzoil Ultra versus Platinum. Add packs are virtual ringers between the two but there were significant differences in base oil compositions.
Unless Valvoline is flat lying Extended should be superior, according to their marketing claims and pricing structure.
I do 5k OCIs anyway but figure a 20k rated oil should in theory leave fewer deposits than a 10k one. Worth an extra 2 bucks to me.
I been using Mobil 1 Advanced full synthetic 5W20, Next oil change in my Edge I may just go to Mobil 1 EP I only run 5-6000 miles myself.
Let's call Valvoline a blender then, but is PBR not novel or innovative? Cummins has enough confidence to make Valvoline the house oil.
Patent for oil to clean carbon deposits:
US11078436B2 - Lubricant for preventing and removing carbon deposits in internal combustion engines - Google Patents
A lubricant formulation which is effective to remove or prevent carbon deposits in internal combustion engines has a solvency as defined by aniline point from about 20 to about 115, a volatility (as measured by NOACK) of less than 15%, an oxidative stability (as measured by PDSC) of above 40...
patents.google.com
And they're the lubricant supplier of the Aston F1 team. That's just the most technologically demanding motorsport there is.
I'm not saying they're a fully integrated powerhouse like Mobil supplying every industry, but they're not just a marketing project like Fram or K&N oil, or a generic house brand like Supertech or Kirkland (which are perfectly serviceable). Its disingenuous to suggest that.
SDS Section 15, state regs, PA:
"PROPRIETARY SUBSTANCE OF HITEC 11188 -
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You can't find it on the Afton website or Google.
Currently mobil 1 shows about 7 oxidation across the board except for the ESP line is around 40
Valvoline to Highlight its State-of-the-Art Engine Lab - Engine Builder Magazine
Valvoline Inc. has unveiled a new broad-based digital and broadcast media campaign featuring its unique, state-of-the-art engine lab.
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Many companies have their own dedicated engine lab. The all have phd chemists too.
In Amsoil's case for some oils they are just buying additive packages from a supplier (OE line for example) and their other oils like SS and Dominator are developed in-house. Same with Valvoline, Mobil and many others. Custom additive packages developed in conjunction with the blender and additive supplier.
Valvoline's market is quick lube and retail (Walmart/AZ etc.) so they will be limited by material selection to some extent.
It’s probably just GTL from Pearl…
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Now I wonder how that compares to Valvoline synthetic?
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The Cummins deal is nothing but an advertisement that Valvoline pays Cummins for.
And you really think Valvoline oils are in the Mercedes powertrain that powers the Aston F1 team? They didn't start putting Valvoline decals on that car until late in the season this year for a marketing push. Valvoline had nothing to do with whatever is in the dry sump of Alonso's car this year. Stop being naive about advertising.
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Again, this is just a massive ad. I have no doubt that they test what they blend for quality assurance purposes, but they are a marketing company before they are an oil company.Valvoline to Highlight its State-of-the-Art Engine Lab - Engine Builder Magazine
Valvoline Inc. has unveiled a new broad-based digital and broadcast media campaign featuring its unique, state-of-the-art engine lab.
Many companies have their own dedicated engine lab. The all have phd chemists too.
In Amsoil's case for some oils they are just buying additive packages from a supplier (OE line for example) and their other oils like SS and Dominator are developed in-house. Same with Valvoline, Mobil and many others. Custom additive packages developed in conjunction with the blender and additive supplier.
Valvoline's market is quick lube and retail (Walmart/AZ etc.) so they will be limited by material selection to some extent.
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What does that even mean … ?
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Since the Aramco deal, technically, they’re the major-est.
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Fair point, but that doesn't retroactively make their Cummins deal into something it never was.
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That has what percentage of drive-line fluids ? That’s not posing.
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Valvoline is not a vertically integrated petrochemical company - So what ? Our site favorites are not either - nobody condemns them for that …
Ok Valvoline gets there base oil from Exxon Mobil and then gets the additive package, from Afton Chemical, what makes them different, from Mobil 1 or Castrol accept they already have their own base oils.. they still have to go to a chemical company for their own blend correct?
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