Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w20

[Fa24wrx]

I would use it as a preventive maintenance on an engine I'm not familiar with to clean it up.
Results look amazing. I just might run one interval through my engine to ensure shininess internally

One run may not be enough.

 

[TwoC400s]

Why is the zinc in the 5w30 sample so much lower than the 5w20? Lab variance? Seems like quite a gap

 

[YZJB]

I am strongly considering using this in my Fiesta ST (1.5L Dragon EcoBoost). I currently run 5W-30 D1G3 oils with great results. My concern with R&P is its compatibility with wet belts, as this engine uses a belt-in-oil for the oil pump.

Do we think R&P might affect the wet belt negatively?

 

[Fa24wrx]

I am strongly considering using this in my Fiesta ST (1.5L Dragon EcoBoost). I currently run 5W-30 D1G3 oils with great results. My concern with R&P is its compatibility with wet belts, as this engine uses a belt-in-oil for the oil pump.

Do we think R&P might affect the wet belt negatively?

It's an api sp oil off the shelf. I'd think it should be fine with most mass produced cars

 

[YZJB]

It's an api sp oil off the shelf. I'd think it should be fine with most mass produced cars

I tend to agree, I just found it interesting that even when I asked Valvoline Australia technical about R&P and wet-belts they basically said no. Have a look at their reply:

“Good morning, most Ford Eco-Boost engines require an engine oil meeting Ford specification of WSS-M2C-913C/D, eg, MD Mondeo with a 2.0 litre, Mustang with 2.3 litre, LZ Focus with 1.5 litre, WG Fiesta with 1.5 litre, FG MK II G6E with 2.0 litre, Escape with 1.5 litre, the Restore & Protect 5W30 meets Ford requirement of WSS-M2C-961-A1, so in these applications I have mentioned, I would only recommend our Synpower FE 5W30 as it is approved by Ford globally for WSS-M2C-913C/D.

Hope this helps.”

I then asked about the newer EcoBoosts which spec 961-A1 and the reply was:

“Good morning, the Ford Ranger Raptor with the 3.0 litre engine, we currently do not have any information on this vehicle for Australia & New Zealand from Ford, it is a relatively a new release for the US market and requires a 5W30 full synthetic engine oil that meets Ford approval of WSS-M2C-961-A1. Restore & Protect 5W30, and Synpower Full Synthetic 5W30 both meet the Ford requirement of WSS-M2C-961-A1 but are not approved. I suggest that you check and confirm with the vehicle manufacturer on the warranty obligations before using the product.

Regards”

I think I’ll run it anyway, it’s my own car, and if there’s an issue with the belt prematurely degrading then I’ll deal with it, but Valvoline’s response leaves me a little concerned.

 

[YZJB]

Ok, this gets weirder. I asked for clarification and got this response:

“The current Ford Ranger Raptor, 2022-2024 with a V6 twin turbo petrol motor requires a full synthetic engine oil in a 5W30 meeting WSS-M2C961-A1. Our Synpower 5W30 full Synthetic meets the requirements and is recommended for this vehicle in warranty period and nothing else.

Although the Restore & Protect 5W30 meets the requirements, it is formulated for older engines or engines that have been somewhat neglected, so in this case the Synpower 5W30 Full Synthetic is your premium recommendation.”

Uh, so R&P is Valvoline’s “highest performing oil” but is also inferior to normal Synpower? Maybe I need to email Valvoline global instead of Australia.

 

[02zx9r rev2]

Why not just stick to what you hav been using that wasn’t giving you any doubts

 

[ndarkside93]

Thanks. Going to be using this in my 2008 Honda Civic 230.000 miles. We shall see how it goes.

I’m assuming you have the r18 motor? My 2013 Civic with 230k miles was cleaned significantly on the first pass requiring a filter change. I did not put the first 225k on the engine so no knowledge of the maintenance history

 

[Jetronic]

I tend to agree, I just found it interesting that even when I asked Valvoline Australia technical about R&P and wet-belts they basically said no. Have a look at their reply:

“Good morning, most Ford Eco-Boost engines require an engine oil meeting Ford specification of WSS-M2C-913C/D, eg, MD Mondeo with a 2.0 litre, Mustang with 2.3 litre, LZ Focus with 1.5 litre, WG Fiesta with 1.5 litre, FG MK II G6E with 2.0 litre, Escape with 1.5 litre, the Restore & Protect 5W30 meets Ford requirement of WSS-M2C-961-A1, so in these applications I have mentioned, I would only recommend our Synpower FE 5W30 as it is approved by Ford globally for WSS-M2C-913C/D.

Hope this helps.”

I then asked about the newer EcoBoosts which spec 961-A1 and the reply was:

“Good morning, the Ford Ranger Raptor with the 3.0 litre engine, we currently do not have any information on this vehicle for Australia & New Zealand from Ford, it is a relatively a new release for the US market and requires a 5W30 full synthetic engine oil that meets Ford approval of WSS-M2C-961-A1. Restore & Protect 5W30, and Synpower Full Synthetic 5W30 both meet the Ford requirement of WSS-M2C-961-A1 but are not approved. I suggest that you check and confirm with the vehicle manufacturer on the warranty obligations before using the product.

Regards”

I think I’ll run it anyway, it’s my own car, and if there’s an issue with the belt prematurely degrading then I’ll deal with it, but Valvoline’s response leaves me a little concerned.

degrading wet belts are a given from my understanding. I don't even know of any test or requirement in the approval relating to belts.

 

[ndarkside93]

Ok, this gets weirder. I asked for clarification and got this response:

“The current Ford Ranger Raptor, 2022-2024 with a V6 twin turbo petrol motor requires a full synthetic engine oil in a 5W30 meeting WSS-M2C961-A1. Our Synpower 5W30 full Synthetic meets the requirements and is recommended for this vehicle in warranty period and nothing else.

Although the Restore & Protect 5W30 meets the requirements, it is formulated for older engines or engines that have been somewhat neglected, so in this case the Synpower 5W30 Full Synthetic is your premium recommendation.”

Uh, so R&P is Valvoline’s “highest performing oil” but is also inferior to normal Synpower? Maybe I need to email Valvoline global instead of Australia.

They haven’t sought our gotten a formal approval for this oil which is why customer support won’t recommend it for the application. Even though they do explicitly state that it meets the specification. Almost like them not seeking a dexos license for gm vehicles.

 

[YZJB]

degrading wet belts are a given from my understanding. I don't even know of any test or requirement in the approval relating to belts.

They haven’t sought our gotten a formal approval for this oil which is why customer support won’t recommend it for the application. Even though they do explicitly state that it meets the specification. Almost like them not seeking a dexos license for gm vehicles.

Well, I decided to run it in my Fiesta with wet oil pump belt anyway. My car, my problem if it causes any issue I guess. Im happy to run that experiment.

Something which gave me some confidence is the Valvoline USA oil guide listed R&P as suitable on several Fords I looked up which have wet belts, even the 1.0L Fiesta/EcoSport/Focus which have full wet belts (camshaft drive and oil pump drive).

So, I think it’ll be just fine in my car. Hopefully.

 

[wpod]

Was hoping for a bit more Moly but it should be good. Anyway will give it a go and see how it goes. Thanks for posting the virgin report.

Moly leaves deposits

 

[buster]

Moly leaves deposits

It does in some instances. Red Line didn't do well in the TEOST test years back when Amsoil tested it and it was suspected that it was due to the high moly. It's a tradeoff I guess between friction modification and deposits.

 

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[Dave1027]

That cleaned dipstick after only one change interval seemed too good to be true. I was impressed.

 

[GemStater]

After reading up in the forum here and watching the four(4) videos from Motor Oil Geek and DIYautoworksNG, I'm seriously rethinking my status as a Pennzoil Platinum loyalist. Restore & Protect appears to be the real deal as shown by both used oil analysis AND engine teardown and inspection. I think if improved fuel economy could be shown and repeated from improved piston ring cleanliness and sealing, that would really be some next level stuff.

 

[BrandonTDog]

Going to post this here as a way to show proof as to whether or not this oil will clean the top of the engine in addition to the pistons and rings. These are the before pictures prior to using valvoline restore and protect in a Honda Accord with a 2.4L and 164k miles. I will update later with what OCI’s I used and new results/pictures in say 10-12k miles which is about a year for me.

 

[Fa24wrx]

Going to post this here as a way to show proof as to whether or not this oil will clean the top of the engine in addition to the pistons and rings. These are the before pictures prior to using valvoline restore and protect in a Honda Accord with a 2.4L and 164k miles. I will update later with what OCI’s I used and new results/pictures in say 10-12k miles which is about a year for me.

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I'll be interested to see how it comes out

 

[otis24]

I purchased 12 quart bottles of V-R&P at Napa. If I get get Napa Full Synthetic (made by Valvoline) on sale for a decent price, I will mix it 3 and 3 with R&P.