Valvoline R&P Stops BMW Oil Consumption
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Too many variables. Especially with regards to maintenance regimen of prior owners. The majority of euro oils run clean so they don't generate deposits which is kind of the point anyways.
Valvoline Restore & Protect might be a API SQ/GF-7 formulation. It sounds weird saying like that, however, when we'll finally have lubricants with those specs available on the market, we can compare. This product might just be way too early to market, and Valvoline decided to market it differently under the current specifications.
I find it hard to believe the deposit control of this will be seen in gf7 but I would love to be wrong. I don't think gf7 will be such a big leap from gf6 in that regard but I would love to be able to buy any whatever gf7 oil that can do r&p's job for much less. Maybe they'll integrate some of it but not all in the next revision.
It’s not. That suggestion has zero basis.
As I also imagined. Aoap approved the gf-7 spec in March of 2024 but r&p came out in January of 2024 but it takes a few months to properly develop and thoroughly test it at minimum so there's pretty much no way that can be the case.
Good notes, just would be better to see oil dipstick picks along with photo of the odometer mileage along the way. Good bump for R&P. I know Valvoline is going to try & keep this secret for as long as possible. Possibly push others to make similar products (Mobil R&P 
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Time will tell.
)?Time will tell.
Some small improvements.
The have extended OCIs, neglect, laziness, and McDonalds for that.
It was a theory and then there is also API SQ coming up. Either way, Valvoline R&P is a heck of a product that actually does what it says it does.
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I don’t think engine longevity affects new car sales in any noticeable amount. People don’t often buy new cars because the engine wore out in their old car. Usually by the time an engine is worn out it’s already on its third or fourth owner and it’s original owner may have already bought 3 or 4 new cars in that time period.
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Ya sure, tell that to my Audi Q7 that used Castrol 5/40 Euro oil thru the Audi dealer on time every time from the start and ended up gobbling oil a rate of 1 Qt every 400 miles. Stuck oil control rings thanks to that great Euro oil.
Thanks to a Berryman's B12 piston soak and now running the VR&P oil, its not using any oil at all anymore on 3000 mile changes thus far. Next change on VR&P at 5000 miles coming up...
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Consumption or no consumption is also not indicative of oil quality. Rings were generally issue on Audi engines (more so than VW). Just because your rings are ok now, doesn’t mean you won’t have same issue soon.
That Castrol, while mediocre compared to let’s say Mobil1 0W40 etc. is not cause of that issue. It does full OCI on BMW engines without stuck rings etc. or MB engines or VW/Audi engines without ring issues.
And yes, I would use it any time over VR&P.
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I used Mobil 1 0-40 FS forever in all my Audis and still use it in my twin turbo V8 Mercedes, and the old 13 Audi A6 we have. Worked well over all the years. However, I see the formula has changes and the Esters are not there anymore. Makes me wonder how the new formulation is going to keep things as clean. Seeing the UOA's on the new formulation has me wondering how good the new M1 0-40 really is compared to the old stuff. With the old formulation the wear metals were great on my vehicles, but not liking the new formulation as well as the old FS for the wear metals now.
As for our Q7 with the CREC engine, it's a know oil control ring sticking animal. I don't figure I have a choice than to use VR&P or a HPL and keep the intervals at 5000 miles to keep the rings from sticking again. Time will tell, but Its going to take years to learn the answer I suspect. I'll continue to use the VR&P in it as the UOA on the VR&P looks great on this CREC engine. Euro specs are bring ignored using it I know, and don't care as long as I run 5000 mile intervals.
As for our Q7 with the CREC engine, it's a know oil control ring sticking animal. I don't figure I have a choice than to use VR&P or a HPL and keep the intervals at 5000 miles to keep the rings from sticking again. Time will tell, but Its going to take years to learn the answer I suspect. I'll continue to use the VR&P in it as the UOA on the VR&P looks great on this CREC engine. Euro specs are bring ignored using it I know, and don't care as long as I run 5000 mile intervals.
Worried about a lack of high polarity esters?
Exxon Mobil would like to introduce you to Alkylated naphthalenes.
https://www.exxonmobilchemical.com/en/products/synthetic-base-stocks/alkylated-naphthalene
NVM that M1 still uses Esters.
https://www.exxonmobilchemical.com/...etic-base-stocks/esters/data/317409-10061.pdf
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crazy4trains is a longtime, respected forum user in the E39 section of bimmerfest.
If you wish to reach out to him in the thread or ask for an update, here is a link:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/....972780/page-5?post_id=13959666#post-13959666
If you wish to reach out to him in the thread or ask for an update, here is a link:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/....972780/page-5?post_id=13959666#post-13959666
a member there,in that discussion refers to the "BavarianE39 CCV mod" that fixed his problem with the consumption.
what is that ? does it work?
what is that ? does it work?
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Ya same with my buddy's 2nd gen Audi TT with 200 k km, it's a real oil burner! Must be the same oil control rings that the bigger Audis also use.
I'll have to convince him to try VR&P before he runs out of oil one day and ruins his motor.....
