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Valvoline R&P - Engine Builder Mag
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At the price of new cars and the added cost to insure a new expensive car, I'm going to keep my current cars until I'm dead or they get totaled by some bonehead on the road. So why not take good care of them?
I'm more worried about the deer I encounter blasted 3 of them 2 times in the shop and one close to totaled out
Patman
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Now that I’m retired I don’t want to have a car payment and since both of my cars are paid off I want to keep them as long as possible. The Corvette for sure will never be sold, and the Civic will hopefully last me another 15 years before it gets to the point where it’s not worth putting money into. But that being said, I do think rust will take it before the engine wears out.
I don't have to drive on salted roads, so rust is a non-issue for me. My vehicles look like new underneath ... zero rust.
This!!!
Not necessarily true. More modern engines are using oil that didn’t in the past. Trying to squeeze the last foot out of a gallon of fuel, they have made the engines looser. All of a sudden Toyotas start using oil probably due to low tension rings that allow oil to get by them. Then you have carbon buildup which makes it worse.
This could be a very timely product.
Rub it in lol
Not necessarily in a Hyundai/Kia.
I might have missed it in the 70+ pages in the other thread, but has anyone provided a scientific explanation about HOW this actually works? So far all I've seen is marketing claims and some anecdotes that I don't particularly trust. I'm not saying this product doesn't work, I've never even purchased a bottle, but it has all the typical red flags of a miracle product so far.
There is something they discovered that reverses the aging process by slowly (4 OCI min) removing carbon from piston rings, which is a stubborn form of deposit. Rather than just preventing piston deposits, this oil can slowly remove them to near 100% removal. No one knows what the secret component is. Could be something as simple as AN which is what HPL uses, but no one really knows.
Some people still think the Earth might be flat, even though there's tons of scientific evidence that it's not flat. Plenty of users with experiences that says Restore & Protect works, but still some people will probably think that's all made up or something because it's all a conspiracy to rip-off the consumer with "snake oil". 
Yeah that's the interesting thing so far. 95% of user's reviews are very positive from noticeable cleaning to less oil consumption. I'm sure a % of those reviews are placebo, but the majority seem to be positive.
I have no doubt it works, but I do think it's important to keep in mind it's a slow process with this oil. 4 OCI is at least a year of driving.
OK I just wanted to check and make sure I hadn't missed something. This stuff just kind of looks and sounds like a duck. Not here to make any claims for or against it I will personally just need more time and evidence before I buy into the hype. When people are very hyped up about a product it's a lot easier for them to nudge their findings in the direction of supporting their beliefs.
MolaKule
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Well, you can predict how a compound will function if you have the molecular information and the proper modeling software, so I don't buy this statement.
The question I have to ask is: What were you going to use this "Mystery" compound for if not for solvency and the breaking of carbon radicals?
Something just doen't link up here.
Maybe whatever it was worked significantly better than they thought. In other words, it was for solvency, but it came with a perk.
...also, adding solvency doesn't' guarantee you that it can remove piston deposits. So their model was off in it's ability to be able to accomplish that. That's the way I read it. As both engineers at Valvoline have emphasized repeatedly is that you have to test in actual engines. And they did that. Would be nice to see even more data.
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Very true. That's not unreasonable.
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