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Two colleagues on a flight from DFW to NYC. Had a misconnect so AA sent them on this flight. They reported their aircraft just "kissed" another. Looks like winglet damage. This is the picture they took.
Probably not.oof, someone losing their job.
How much does a repair cost on that type of accident what has to be recertified? inspected?Probably not.
We in aviation generally try to encourage reporting mishaps. Part of that is amnesty when reporting. If people are punished every time they make a mistake, it generally leads to people trying to cover their mistakes.
That makes a ton of sense. The last thing you want is a coverup.Probably not.
We in aviation generally try to encourage reporting mishaps. Part of that is amnesty when reporting. If people are punished every time they make a mistake, it generally leads to people trying to cover their mistakes.
"Recently, I was asked if I was going to fire an employee who made a mistake that cost the company $600,000. No, I replied, I just spent $600,000 training him. Why would I want somebody to hire his experience?"
-Thomas J. Watson (according to the internet, so you know... take the authenticity of the quote for what it's worth)
I've done electrical work in a nuclear plant and that's not how it works . You don't just grab your tools and go do somebody else's work . If there was a delay it was because job packages had to be created and a ton of people had to review it and sign off . No matter what the task is .If somebody did what you described the plant would receive heavy fines by the NRC and the offender would be escorted out by security . Probably a few others as well .My buddy and his coworkers use to joke about the Duct Tape they used at work. BTW this stuff cost $2,000 a roll back in the early eighties. They used it to seal leaking pipes in the Nuclear Plant they worked at. Don't worry it was only temporary fix until they could get the Union welders in to make the fix permanent.
He wasn't liked very much at that plant by the electrical workers. He had a EE degree from a top engineering school and he got tired of calling the electricians and waiting until they were good and ready to fix different things. So he would roll out to his car pull out his tool box walk back into the plant and do the work himself. He was making the union guys look really bad. The electrician would show up and find out the electrical issue he was called for, was already fixed. Sometimes it was really stupid simple job such as replacing a bad gauge. Remove four screws and disconnect a couple wires on the back of the gauge. Get a new gauge, reconnect the wires, mount in the panel with four screws.
The Union did complain about his actions but were laughed out of the plant managers office. The electricians had been making him wait for more than an hour sometimes two or three hours and stop all work until they got good and really to show up.
From that day on he became a priority to the union guys. He'd call and they would show up within minutes.
Isn’t a new winglet upwards of $300,000 including labor?This looks like it happened during pushback so either the tug operator is at fault or the other plane was not in proper position.
The other plane lost its winglet completely. A relatively quick and easy fix compared to damaging the wing itself.
Is it legal to fly with a busted one? I've seen rumors to this effect on previous similar incidents.
I'm am over 99% certain that the winglets are not on any MEL.Ah, but once the collision has been inspected, paperwork done etc are winglets on the "must have" list? Am reading that for some planes, the answer could be no.