Toyota's New Focus

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Stick with what you know. That seems to be Toyota's new mantra going forward, as the Japanese automaker has reportedly diverted its attention away from large trucks like the largely unsuccessful and slow-selling Tundra pickup and back on hybrid vehicles – possibly all wearing the Prius badge, including a minivan and something smaller than the current Prius – and returning to its previous levels of unquestionable quality.

Atsushi Niimi, executive vice president for North America and global manufacturing, tells Automotive News that Toyota will try to build more longevity into its current lineup, addressing issues such as excessive rust and corrosion and introducing new "fail-safe functions" designed to minimize the possibility of "tragic accidents." We suspect that means push-button ignitions that can more easily shut down the car and floor mats that can't bunch up under the accelerator pedal.

In addition, Toyota will focus on the North American market, giving U.S. engineers a larger say when it comes to new vehicle design and the choices of which models make the overseas trek. To speed up the new model renaissance, Toyota will hold back on mid-cycle refreshes, instead working to get more substantial updates ready in less time.

On the manufacturing side, Toyota believes that it expanded too rapidly over the last decade and will attempt to slow down and restore the trust that customers had in the brand. Apparently, that slowdown will indeed affect the recently-built and still-idle plant in Blue Springs, Mississippi.


http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/02/toyota-plans-to-trim-trucks-focus-on-hybrids-improve-quality/
 
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the Japanese automaker has reportedly diverted its attention away from large trucks like the largely unsuccessful and slow-selling Tundra pickup

GM and Chrysler will be producing less trucks and SUV's as well so Ford has got to love this.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Good. Let's hope they can pull it off.


Yup. After reading the article, I wonder if I should delay putting in my order for a 2010 Prius.
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Good. Let's hope they can pull it off.


Yup. After reading the article, I wonder if I should delay putting in my order for a 2010 Prius.
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Their design development cycle is still 3 years.
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I just read that they are planning to eliminate mid-cycle model refreshes, so to me it all sounds like Toyota is scrambling to cut costs and dump gas hogs as they became unpopular.

I seriously doubt they can go back to 90's quality and reliability.


They can easily go back to 90's quality as their systems are all in place. Their real issue with quality in monitoring the supplier tiers closely. When their volumes were bursting at the seams it was difficult. Now that volumes are down and the top guy is beating his "less is more" drum they will be watching suppliers like a hawk. But this is good news. Ford did the "less is more" kind of thing several years ago and Mullaly knows if he builds really high quality dependable cars he can sell them for a higher price and people will gladly pay. This is important that each company finds their own right economy of scale which is the point where they can make excellent cars versus just pushing as many out the door and then start the rebate cycle all over again. GM needs to find their "right size" where they have good quality specs...then figure out how to increase volumes without sacrificing quality. Toyota learned a big lesson...it is easy to make 1-3 million cars almost perfect. Making 8-10 million is another trick. All of these companies will get the same syndrome when they generate these huge volumes...no way can they keep the quality standards up. Then they have to rebate all the leftovers. So, less really is more.
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I just read that they are planning to eliminate mid-cycle model refreshes, so to me it all sounds like Toyota is scrambling to cut costs and dump gas hogs as they became unpopular.


If they can do that (plus quit adding redundant brands like Scion) then maybe, just MAYBE, Toyota can avoid making all the mistakes that GM made. They sure have been duplicating them in rapid succession over the last 10 years and I predicted that they *WOULD* be the next GM, in both the good and bad senses of the analogy, before long.


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I seriously doubt they can go back to 90's quality and reliability.


How can I say this without it sounding like bashing, which it honestly is not.... I'll just try to be pragmatic here and I think anyone who's read many of my posts knows I admit my favorite company (Chrysler) has made plenty of mistakes.

Toyota can't go back to "90s quality and reliability" because that was nothing but a myth anyway. Yes, they made GOOD CARS in the 90s and still do, but they were nothing better than any other brand, and thats exactly where they sit today. In the 90s, Toyota was highly successful in promoting their successes to a marketplace that was sick to death of GM, Ford, and Chrysler mistakes through the 80s. Toyota had plenty of mistakes in the 90s too: Remember in the 90s Toyota tried to build a decent minivan TWICE and utterly failed TWICE before the Sienna, whereas Chrysler got it right first thing out of the box in '84. Then in the late 90s and 2000s it took them THREE tries to make a full-size pickup (T100, first, and second-gen Tundra) and all 3 were failures. But on the whole the 90s were a time when Toyota vehicles, especially cars, seemed much better compared to Chevy Citations and Olds Omegas of years before and the halo of good perception surrounded the whole company.
 
Scion was created because many young people associated Toyota and Lexus with old people.

The Xa and Xb were just a Toyota Echo platform and engine with a different body an interior.

GM had a different problem with their multiple divisions. Their cars were so similar that it hardly mattered! That, and many of those lines were associated with old people as well, chasing away the youth.
 
440Magnum you are my new hero. Now stop looking at that man behind the curtain!
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Seriously, though, while I will agree that Detroit needed the butt-kicking that the Japanese gave them in the 80's and 90's, I've been convinced, especially lately, that the perceived quality that Japan has over Detroit is just that -- perceived.

While it's anedcotal evidence, I know too many people that have had really off-the-wall problems with their Japanese cars that they brushed off because "well no one's perfect", yet they would have berated Detroit for the same sort of things, things which never happened to my American "junk".

And then there are the examples you cited plus my personal favorite, Toyota opening new plants for the Tundra right as gas prices went ballistic. Detroit was the evil being for not forseeing gas prices going up and building trucks, but people seem to overlook this mis-step by the ever-so-perceptive Japanese.....

Let me climb down off of my soapbox now.
 
Originally Posted By: opus1
440Magnum you are my new hero. Now stop looking at that man behind the curtain!
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Seriously, though, while I will agree that Detroit needed the butt-kicking that the Japanese gave them in the 80's and 90's, I've been convinced, especially lately, that the perceived quality that Japan has over Detroit is just that -- perceived.

While it's anedcotal evidence, I know too many people that have had really off-the-wall problems with their Japanese cars that they brushed off because "well no one's perfect", yet they would have berated Detroit for the same sort of things, things which never happened to my American "junk".

And then there are the examples you cited plus my personal favorite, Toyota opening new plants for the Tundra right as gas prices went ballistic. Detroit was the evil being for not forseeing gas prices going up and building trucks, but people seem to overlook this mis-step by the ever-so-perceptive Japanese.....

Let me climb down off of my soapbox now.


Well...no ones perfect....
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My 2008 Toyota Sienna was garbage. I wish Toyota luck in righting the ship but think they have gotten too big and would be in the same boat as GM if they were not given special treatment by the USA govt. and were under the business killing thumb of labor unions like the big 3.

Toyota makes nothing that compares to Ford currently.
 
All perceived quality? NOT!

My 2003 Saturn ION has had multiple A/C control panel failures, an ignition lock cylinder that totally fell apart, an evaporator that leaked water on the passenger side floor, and control arm bushings that must be replaced.

People I know with Hondas and Toyotas don't have this happen to them.
 
Originally Posted By: milwaukee
My 2008 Toyota Sienna was garbage. I wish Toyota luck in righting the ship but think they have gotten too big and would be in the same boat as GM if they were not given special treatment by the USA govt. and were under the business killing thumb of labor unions like the big 3.

Toyota makes nothing that compares to Ford currently.


So now your saying a Ford is better??
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Neither are better, and there is really no "best". It's all opinion, to some even todays Toyota's are better than Ford and vice versa.

I feel yes that Toyota did slack off in certain departments but they also made up for it in others. The Scion division was a resounding success in terms of "bringing in the younger generation". It also brought afford ability into the line up. Ford has also been in slumps and had its shares of ups and downs and only recently during its darkest hour was able to come up with a solid gameplan and produce some top notch vehicles, albeit longevity is yet to be known.

I am a Toyota guy, I am also an old school Jeep guy. Domestic or Import, I really don't care, so long as its affordable, priced right, reliable and the dealership doesn't treat its customer like [censored] then its good in my eyes!
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
The Scion division was a resounding success in terms of "bringing in the younger generation". It also brought afford ability into the line up.


I simply disagree that adding a whole car line (and its associated overhead) is a good or permanent way to fix that kind of problem. Oldsmobile didn't start out as an "old coot's car," it became that through neglect and corporate infighting that gave the youth-oriented cars to other divisions. Oldsmobile was once a muscle car powerhouse with a good young to mid-age following. Scion could easily become the next old folks car for Toyota, or get lost to youth in the next economic crunch. A more practical approach seems to be paring down the number of "nameplates" and diversifying models within existing lines to attract new buyers. Its working wonders for Cadillac, where the CTS and particularly the CTS-V is attracting pretty much the optimum customer- pre-middle-age people at the height of their purchasing power, not retirees and not youth that will bail to the used car market at the first hint of economic distress.

And since when did base Toyotas become "not affordable" so that a lower-end line is needed? If a fresh college grad can't buy a Corolla, then Toyota has truly lost one of its core values.
 
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