Agreed. The I made pennies selling fruit hit me. We all work hard and give up a lot.
Toyota, why are you absent from the EV races?
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I guess you really can't fault them. Prius was always a joke vehicle to many here. They're everywhere these days! Many bought used and a number of very old ones around here now. They're definitely a solid vehicle. They must be a very big part of their business. We only have Jeep/Dodge, Ford, and Chevrolet in town so anything else new is bought out of town. It is primarly the big 3 in town with Toyota being next most common. I think it's about 45 minutes to the nearest Toyota dealer.Seems like the simple answer is that Toyota just doesn’t want to ditch the hybrid tech they’re tens of billions of dollars and decades in to. They’ll say almost anything to keep their hybrid sales up.
So much for an EV thread that discusses anything other than Tesla.
I mean I think we reached a point that makes sense. Toyota is overwhelmingly in the hybrid camp so far. Some people lost their **** in between over some electric stuff. It calmed down, the smoke cleared. Yep, I can still buy a Prius. Still not sure if I could get a BZ4x. Still confused at the 17 detours before we got here.
Perhaps you might ask peope why they bought their EV. Or look into forums. People buy a lotta Camrys and F-150s; are they sheeple as well?
You mention TV and government. Tesla does not advertise. I think just about every other car company does. And the government has propped up legacy car companies and big oil for what, 100 years?
Calling EV owners sheeple is insulting to me as an EV owner. So yeah, you are right, I know it.
IMO, all work is honorable. The truth is, any janitor or burger flipper works far harder than me sitting on my butt writing code.
I wish I could say the same. I definitely feels like a earn it! It's rewarding though, at times at least. Other times and I've definitely had enough.
Anyone who gets up in the morning and goes off to work is OK in my book.
I like to run with the survivors; the ones who keep going and find a way instead of whining.
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Or miss a chance to trash whatever they don‘t buy
EV chat is like this all over again, tomorrow.
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That belongs to a PG&E executive ?
Arent they trying to make a comeback with a outsourced EV
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42400955/afeela-sony-honda-ev/
EVs are huge business opportunity, with alot of potential from RD, mfg, cars, and recycling battery packs. There are off course weird applications that are more of a statement over practicality....Hummer EV and other big heavy trucks that really are impractical but are going to sell like bananas.
I owned a Camry and several F series pickups and wouldn't deny thinking about an Ev down the road. you have posted your vehicles and as a car lover your Vette gives that away You bought the Tesla cause you like cars. I am positive the tv news didn't sway you into buyng the Ev If you feel offended sorry. But I still wonder what herded the people into buying the Evs, it is the trendy thing to do. I remember when everybody was buying Porsches in the 1970s as their trendy we are cool commuter cars. I buy vehicles because they 1) serve a purpose or 2) are fun not as a status symbol or virtue signaling.
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I owned a camry and several
My neighbor has a Prius as a third vehicle and it works pretty good. I have driven it a bit and it gets really good mpgs and between the battery and engine the operation is flawless. I am impressed by it.
One of my favorite sayings is,
"You can always spot the pioneer. He's the guy lying dead by the side of the trail, with the arrows in his back."
Let the other "pioneers" make the mistakes, and learn from them without suffering stranded investments.
"You can always spot the pioneer. He's the guy lying dead by the side of the trail, with the arrows in his back."
Let the other "pioneers" make the mistakes, and learn from them without suffering stranded investments.
So back to what Gill Pratt, Chief Scientist at Toyota said in the article anyone have a counter argument to their own daily usage?
He hypothesized a fleet of 100 internal combustion engine cars with average emissions of 250 grams of carbon dioxide per kilometer traveled. Now, assuming a limited supply of lithium, there’s only enough of it to make 100 kilowatt-hours of batteries. Toyota’s Chief Scientist says that if it were used for a single, big battery, the average emissions of the whole fleet would drop by just 1.5 g/km.
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But if the small amount of lithium were spread among smaller, 1.1-kWh batteries, it would be possible to make 90 hybrid cars, which would still leave 10 traditional combustion cars, but the average emissions of the theoretical fleet would drop to a much lower 205 g/km.
According to Automotive News, Gill Pratt was inspired to dig deeper into the battery question by his own family’s experience with a Tesla Model X, which has over 300 miles of range, but the car is typically driven less than 30 miles a day, which means 90 percent of the battery is “dead weight”.
He hypothesized a fleet of 100 internal combustion engine cars with average emissions of 250 grams of carbon dioxide per kilometer traveled. Now, assuming a limited supply of lithium, there’s only enough of it to make 100 kilowatt-hours of batteries. Toyota’s Chief Scientist says that if it were used for a single, big battery, the average emissions of the whole fleet would drop by just 1.5 g/km.
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But if the small amount of lithium were spread among smaller, 1.1-kWh batteries, it would be possible to make 90 hybrid cars, which would still leave 10 traditional combustion cars, but the average emissions of the theoretical fleet would drop to a much lower 205 g/km.
According to Automotive News, Gill Pratt was inspired to dig deeper into the battery question by his own family’s experience with a Tesla Model X, which has over 300 miles of range, but the car is typically driven less than 30 miles a day, which means 90 percent of the battery is “dead weight”.
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